Why did Doohan hate Shatner?

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  1. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

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    Or guilty conscience for treating him bad over several decades. ;) I'm sure Shatner would help anyone who was frail to leave a stage.

    You can read hundreds of "reasons" into actions.
     
  2. Rabittooth

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    Yeah...that'd be great...another "normal actor" playing an extraordinary role. :rolleyes:

    The Shat's acting is at the core of what made Kirk so awesome.
    Take the....pauses...and the....DRAMA...awayfromKirk...and............you have....dull dull dull.

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  3. johnconner

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    Word.
     
  4. Good Will Riker

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    Well, at least that shadow allowed Nichelle Nichols to stretchout her thespian muscles in 70's classics like Truck Turner! :guffaw:
     
  5. misskim86

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    That's super interesting stuff thanks a lot Sarah, do you know know why he thought Bill was racist and intolerant?
     
  6. misskim86

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    Yeah I didn't know about it either, I knew that everyone sorta .. disliked Bill 'somewhat' but then I read Shatner's Star Trek memories and he wrote that Nichelle told him how everyone disliked him and he wasn't even aware of it, but he finally sorta talked to them except Doohan who refused to be interviewed by Shatner.

    And then I read George Takei's book and he really described how Doohan hated Bill, way more than the average Star Trek crew member. Hence this thread.
     
  7. billcosby

    billcosby Commodore Commodore

    You know,
    sometimes it's just hard to work with certain people.
     
  8. misskim86

    misskim86 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yah but it doesn't mean you hate their guts
     
  9. Captain X

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    No, actually it'd lose some of the corn factor and make it more accesssable to people who would otherwise be repelled by Shatner's horrible delivery. It'd also take away one of the biggest things that Star Trek is made fun of for.

    The Shat wasn't exactly a great actor back in the '60s. Fortuantely he got better at it by the time the movies came out.

    From what I read on his blog, Wil Wheaton didn't much care for him either.
     
  10. misskim86

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    Why wouldn't he like Shatner? Did they ever do anything?
     
  11. Good Will Riker

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    Somehow, I doubt that Doohan would have harbored his dislike of Shatner for all those years had Star Trek not become a worldwide phenomenon.

    Doohan disliked Shatner (for a good reason), and also was jealous of his nemesis's success.
     
  12. A beaker full of death

    A beaker full of death Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Who?

    I mean really, Wil fucking Wheaton? Why not ask the janitor?
     
  13. Sector 7

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    I had the good fortune to know Jimmy Doohan. He is as Wikipedia describes him. He was gracious, kind and really would give you the shirt off his back if you needed it.
    The times I met Shatner, he was just the opposite.
     
  14. Captain X

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    Apparently when ST5 was filming, Wil was brought down from the TNG set to the ST5 shuttlebay set by someone who worked at both shoots and introduced them, and to make a long story short, The Shat was a prick to him, so much so that GR made him apologize to the kid.
     
  15. Rabittooth

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    I disagree. Shatner is the King. Of course it's cornball to some degree...everyone knows it...even the Shat does. And, like him and fans of his performances, I embrace the cheese, and have even learned to LOVE it.
    I posted this youtube link in another thread:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWWJuuF_mM0

    Classic Shatner...to me...that's awesome. :p:techman:

    Anyway...I have no idea what he's like personally other than how he has portrayed himself as in various media (in which he seems like, at least at present, a pretty nice dude), so I can't say that he's a wonderful all-around guy. Sound like he's certainly stepped on some toes in his professional life.
    But performances like the one above...Trek would not have been as cool as it was without those moments IMO. :cool:

    -Rabittooth
     
  16. misskim86

    misskim86 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    wow really? Any details on that?
     
  17. Therin of Andor

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    You must be very young?

    Wait till you're in a job where people have high expectations of your performance, and you want to impress people, and a work colleague is deliberately setting you up for failure in hundreds of little niggly ways that make you look bad if you even start to complain about them.

    Not that I'm saying that's what Shatner did to Doohan.

    He blogged about it, and it's in one of his autobiographical books, IIRC.
     
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    Some people don't get on with other people.......Welcome to the human race, we do hope you stay is a pleasant one, if not refunds can be issued on exit.
     
  19. Captain X

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    If you honestly like the corn, then there isn't anything for it. I don't like it, and I honestly couldn't care less about Shatner being Kirk or someone else playing the character.

    Ask and you shall receive. ;)
     
  20. indranee

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    what's interesting (and our luck) is that the scenes these two were in ALWAYS shone. that's a blessing for us all.
     
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