Who were the choices for "actually it's one of them"

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by crucifixion, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. The Wormhole

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    A bit too much to cover in a mind meld. Keep in mind they have to make this accessible to someone completely unfamiliar with Star Trek. Nero's backstory was simple enough, he's a Romulan from the future and he's pissed over his home being destoryed.
     
  2. Set Harth

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    Slightly longer mind meld?
     
  3. RAMA

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    I just covered it in a few sentences. They did more with Spock's flashback in ST09.
     
  4. MoonlightSinatra

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    Kodos the Executioner?
     
  5. Awesome Possum

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    Several tribbles stacked on top of each other in a trenchcoat. One of them is wearing a Sherlock mask, he's the brains of the operation.
     
  6. Nero's Shadow

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    I think that starfleet kept some superhumans for themselves aka (khan) and decided to unleash them when it was needed !!! Possibly against the Klingons them been a more stronger and phiscal race, humans would not stand a chance and crippling starfleet would be a good opportunity to strike !!! Robert April also holds the key in this film and BC will some how surprise us who he really is. ??? IMO
     
  7. Nero's Shadow

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    Also with our crew are wearing them grey over jackets so have starfleet been put on war footings.? Are the Klingons ready to attack earth if or BC has crippled starfleet ???
     
  8. Gojira

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    I still think he is Charlie X for some reason. Sure, he is at a different age but that is not impossible.
     
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  10. Lance

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    Harry Mudd makes a lot of sense. JJ actually wanted to include the character in Trek '09 but couldn't figure out a way to do it.
     
  11. CaptainDave1701

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    He was one of our best agents = Gary7
     
  12. Shilliam Watner

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    Could he be John Harrison April?
     
  13. The Wormhole

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    Gary Seven doesn't work for Starfleet, seeing as how he lived in the 1960s.
     
  14. WarpFactorZ

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    Presumably Gary Seven was from the future, since he had intimate details of when the Vulcans integrated with Humans, etc... In fact, one could conjecture that he was part of the same organization as the "temporal police" (or whatever they were called -- I didn't watch Enterprise).
     
  15. M'Sharak

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    He had knowledge of what happened when, but maintained that was from (and of) the 20th century.

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  16. The Wormhole

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    That really doesnt't make sense, someone from the future serving as the watchdog that prevents nuclear war. If that requires someone from the future, than that implies nuclear war is what's supposed to happen, and time travel laws should forbid Gary Seven's presence.

    And before we start spinning this in "well maybe he was a rogue agent serving his own agenda against his superiors" let's just stop and look at the intent. Gary Seven was originally intended to be a human specially trained by aliens on a distant world to help humanity though a rough part in their development. Indeed, given Assignemnt Earth was originally pitched as a seperate series completely unconnected to Star Trek, I doubt anyone had time travel in mind at all.

    Besides he didn't have any kind of "intimate details" about when humans met Vulcans, he just noticed that this mostly human starship crew had a Vulcan among them and assumed they had to be from the future.
     
  17. King Daniel Beyond

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    The intro narration, from the original Assignment: Earth standalone pilot script...

    In the hands of one man...
    could rest the future of all mankind.
    His name... Gary Seven...
    born in the year 2319 A.D.
    The only survivor of Earth's attempt
    to send a man back through time to today.
    Assignment... fight an enemy
    who is already here, trying to destroy us.
    If he fails... there'll be no tomorrow!​

    http://www.fastcopyinc.com/orionpress/articles/assignment.htm
     
  18. WarpFactorZ

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    But if history records a nuclear war not occurring until the mid-21st century, it makes perfect sense for him to try and stop it from happening in the 1960s.

    According to Roddenberry's original script, albeit unrelated to Star Trek at the time (from http://www.assignmentearth.ca/):

    As for claiming to be from the 1960s, it's possible that he was "recruited" by agents from the future. Although, it's also possible he simply lied to Kirk et al. because of a "need to know" basis (e.g. he came from even further in the future, and couldn't risk them being tempted to know what happens).
     
  19. The Wormhole

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    Well, the time travel aspect of Gary Seven's origins was certainly dropped when they turned the story into a Trek episode. I see no reason to add them over 40 years after the fact.
     
  20. WarpFactorZ

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    But the time travel aspect couldn't have been completely dropped. The technology Gary Seven used was certainly not vintage 1960s. And I'm not sure how you explain the morphing catwoman, let alone his knowledge of Vulcans.

    So, however you want to slice it, there was some variety of time travel involved with Gary Seven. If it wasn't him, it was the people who set up his pad and recruited/trained him.
     

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