Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by asp7485, Jan 21, 2008.
Perhaps this is a shot before the nacelles are attached to the secondary hull/saucer section?
Definately Back looking forward.
Look at the front shot, in that pic the intercoolers are sloping down away from the camera, whereas in the close up above there sloping down toward the camera.
My theory is, we're standing on top of the engineering section just behind the dorsal looking aft. The port and starboard nacelle attachment nodes are visible sticking out of the main section but without the pylons attached yet. The dome visible in the far middle is the shuttlecraft launch and recovery dome.
I think its nacelles looking back not forward I marked with red circle
It's an engine looking towards the back. The top lip of the back end. The wide angle plays tricks with perspective, but there still isn't enough distance from those intercoolers to the front to say we're looking forward.
Again, it's a metaphor for the project being "under construction," so it's dangerous to take things literally, but I'd find it odd the engines were being built on site with the rest of the ship. I'd think an entirely different manufacturer would've made the engines. Must be a helluva shipyard.
I'm not going to call it that.
Maybe the guy is a good artist/designer, I don't know. I've never reviewed his designs.
I just remember him as one of the geekiest, annoying-as-fuck Star Trek fans I have ever seen from "Trekkies."
I'm not going to call it that.
I don't think so, they seem to match the detail on the engines in the saucer shot.
Speaking of the saucer, it seems to have a lot of details from the refit.
You mean like the Suttles SRB's are bulit by whoever and sent to the cape where they'er attached to the ET ?
- W -
* NASA nut *
I think you're right, these exist. The "Gabe Cowl", though the other shots show a far more smooth design idiom. The shot does seem to be of workers on the rear part of the nacelle, looking towards the saucer (which is too low to be seen at this angle).
Sleek, retro... am I crazy?
Agreed. Biggest dork to be 'adopted" into the franchise since Eric Stillwell.
Well the engines could have been built say by Martin-Thikol and shipped as modules to the yard and installed on the pylons.
Sort of like how a nuclear reactor is built off-site, and shipped to the yard and installed and all the piping and pumps are installed there by the construction workers.
You'd have to remove some sections to get at the connections and to install bits and pieces that are specific to this one ship at the yard that's what we could be looking at.
*shug* I have a uncle who worked for E-B in Groton Conn. for a number of years I'll have to call him up and ask him some questions. Also I'll have to get some books on shipbuilding too.. that'll help fill in some blanks on my end.
Well ? What should we call it then ?
The "Cowl" looks just like his design he did for SOTL Enterprise, so a few are calling it that allready.
I was talking about the first picture on this thread, not that one.
As for welding near "Giant Electromagnets" I'm assuming these nacelles are nowhere NEAR powered up and electromagnets only become magnetic when electro-fied thus the name.
Relax folks, shipyard workers are highly skilled professionals let them do their jobs. Also they are Union workers so don't ask them any questions otherwise they won't finish the job on time:
STAR TREK: PRODUCTION DELAYS
"Well at long last the final Constitution class ship is finished!"
"Hooray! Prepare to launch!"
"OH NO THE BORG ARE ATTACKING WE NEED EVERY SHIP AT WOLF 359 RIGHT NOW!"
You guys can call it whatever you want. Call it the "Gabe Cowl" if you want. I will abstain. I can't even conjure up the guy's image without getting douche chills.
In fairness, his "animae enterprise" was a fine design, for what it was. It's weird to give a name to a design from another designer to describe another designers work... a design we only see bits of.
This is tricky, ethically.
^ My head hurts ! ^
- W -
* I need an asprin now *
Its in between the now sleeker part of the two intercoolers on the top end of 1701 nacelles seen here:
If it's a nacelle, the scale of the workers makes this ship the size of a galaxy class (perhaps no child labour laws in the 23rd century?). I'm with Uss Stardis in thinking we're looking at the top of the engineering hull, though the scary possibility is that we're looking forward from the rear of the saucer to the back of the bridge dome, making the rear, dorsal profile of the saucer pretty funky with some steroidal shoulder "humps". If it's not a nacelle, I hope Uss Stardis is right.
Then what is that dome between the "intercoolers"? Look at the same pic you posted, see the rear top of the main section, that little dome. Thats where I think we're looking towards.
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