What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by I am not Spock, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. Greg Cox

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    And often, it seemed, one time zone!

    Dialogue never heard on any STAR TREK show:

    "Open hailing frequencies to the Zorganian High Ruler!"

    "Er, Captain, it's four in the morning in their capital city."

    "Oh. Well, hail him in about five hours then."

    "Er, I'll be off my shift then. That will seven pm, ship-time."
     
  2. Set Harth

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    Abrams ST takes place in the 23rd century.
     
  3. ChristopherPike

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    Oh that happened a few times on Enterprise. But then again, it's not really a STAR TREK show. So... :lol:

    I think something in "Vox Sola" or "A Night in Sickbay" with the Kreetassans. Travis Mayweather would be the only one around, still on shift to take the call from a planet or ship they'd just left... operating on a different time of day. A little too hung up on mundane details really. Any other show would just have alien worlds be a bit more convienent. It speeds up the drama and doesn't bore the audience to death with crew chat between the next important scene.

    It's the exceptionally difficult alien race, who demand the ship reset their clocks to their time and show respect about practically everything from which direction to pass the drinks in, to not allowing your dog to pee against their trees. Naturally being humans (read: Americans), the universe (read: rest of the world) revolves around us and our time zone. :p
     
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  4. Greg Cox

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    ^ I stand corrected. :)
     
  5. T'Girl

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    When the Phoenix turns, the Earth appear to be about a third of a degree across. Four and a third million miles, or 23 light seconds. I figure that in the 55 second of screen time the Phoenix didn't just go straight out and then stop, but was traveling in a curve.

    Either than, or some of the scenes with the interior of the Phoenix, and the interior of the Enterprise were occurring concurrently within the movie's timeline. The Phoenix simply wasn't at warp for a near minute, but only a couple of dozen seconds.

    :)
     
  6. Therin of Andor

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    To complain about it before the movie even comes out? Yep. :devil:
     
  7. Dart

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    Nah, sure that would be an Ivory Coast flag obviously.:p
     
  8. DarthTom

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    Wow, sure is. Good lord, who had the design first? You'd think whomever chose it second could have picked something else.

    Answered my own question They should have chosen something different still.
     
  9. ROBE

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    What is this Sheldon Cooper Presents Fun With Flags?
     
  10. Kruezerman

    Kruezerman Commodore Commodore

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    With Ferdinand T. Flag?
     
  11. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Commodore Commodore

    Naaahh...
    Sheldon finds flags to be a detriment to society and rank right up there with birds.

    /Leonard

    :p
     
  12. Kruezerman

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    But he's not insane.

    His mother had him tested.
     
  13. lurok

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  14. Oso Blanco

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    Exactly. Here in Berlin, even the different metropolitan districts have their own flags. Berlin has a flag (both as a city as well as a federal state), Germany has a Flag ... but we are nevertheless part of the European Union. Although the EU is not our government, so this might not be the best example.

    All four countries of the UK have their own flags and even their own provincial governments, but they are all part of the United Kingdom and are being ruled by the UK Government.

    And it works the same way in the US and countless other countries ... so why would the UFP or the United Earth work any differently? Countries and regions and districts and whatever will not be abolished just because they have united in order to form a common government.
     
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  15. Kaijima

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    Funny thought - what if it's actually the United States, in Trek timeline, that broke up into a similar but different political entity?

    Trek's WWWIII seemed to hit the USA particularly hard, if First Contact is anything to go by, with what appears to be a breakdown of the government as a whole. Also, just for fun, wasn't there some mention in a TNG writer's guide about native Americans being given back land and former nations by the 24th century?

    It could be that many nations in Trek time still have their historical identities and even flags, but other nations have changed. Much as the Soviet Union no longer exists in our own time today, but we still think of many parts of eastern Europe with a "Soviet" tint, or flavor.
     
  16. DarthTom

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    In the 4 TV series, hundreds of hours of television - the multiple times characters have visited earth and in all the previous films and TV episodes when they visited earth - not once did we see any flag except the UFP.

    So, it's simply adding new material to the Trek canon that former nation states keep their old vestiges.
     
  17. FarStrider

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    Uhura is from the USA (United States of Africa), Chekov is from Russia, Scotty is from Scotland, Kirk is from Iowa, Picard is from France, Riker is from Alaska. . .so even though we may not have seen flags, nations and states still exist on Earth. . . and really, there aren't that many episodes where we visited civilian places on Earth, so you can't go by what was shown in them.

    ~FS
     
  18. DarthTom

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    What about Ben Sisko's father Joseph, and his restaurant we visit multiple times.
     
  19. FarStrider

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    Isn't Sisko's restaurant in New Orleans? That's not a nation or a state. And while certain cities do have flags, those are not generally something that most people outside those cities know about. . . unlike national or state flags.

    ~FS
     
  20. The Mirrorball Man

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    Yeah, New Orleans is more like its own universe.