What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

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  1. Antni

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    Could create a spoof with the chavs haha. Chavs mugging a Vulcan and the Vulcan just nerve pinching the lot of them. Maybe there would be Alien chavs who settled on earth and just happened to fall into chav like ways. Imagine a bolian with a track suit with the pants tucked into his socks gold teeth and a cap haha.
     
  2. The Mirrorball Man

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    One could argue that the Union flag doesn't make much sense if the British Isles are fully integrated in a united Earth government. Seeing English, Scottish and Irish flags would make more sense.
     
  3. lurok

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    Hmm...that sounds strangely like a burberry flag I once saw somewhere.

     
  4. Antni

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    Well England might still use the union flag as decoration as I recall reading somewhere that if Scotland gets independence we're not going to change the flag.
     
  5. throwback

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    The relevant line from "The Last Outpost" is:

    As for Australia, it was referred to in a hypothetical situation - what if this country hadn't joined United Earth in 2150?
     
  6. Ssosmcin

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    How can it be a screw up when everything changed in the beginning of the last film?
     
  7. Admiral Buzzkill

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    In "The Royale," a U.S. Flag is shown and later Picard remarks that the markings on the "object" were "consistent with the hypothesis" that it was launched in the mid-21st century.

    So, so far no canonical evidence that nations don't exist in Kirk's time.

    Iowa does. Wonder if it still has a state flag? Probably does.
     
  8. The Mirrorball Man

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    Yeah, symbols don't just go away.
     
  9. Timo

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    But they do go out of use on occasion.

    In any case, this does appear to be the first time a flag of a nation would be flown in the 23rd century of Star Trek pseudohistory, rather than merely dug from the dustbins of said pseudohistory. Unless we count the flag of Cuba from "The Menagerie", but that one was never seen unfurled.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  10. SonicRanger

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    Of course, the Cuba flag is displayed in the courtroom in The Menagerie.

    http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=141519

    Perhaps Commodore José Mendez is from Cuba and it was displayed because he was presiding over the court?
     
  11. Sci

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    I see no reason why the Union Jack can't fly next to the Flag of the United Federation of Planets. I'm sure the United Kingdom still exists as a polity within the United Earth polity, which itself still exists within the Federation.

    Though I, too, would have preferred to see the Flag of United Earth fly alongside the Union Jack and Federation Flag.

    Also, I'm more bothered by the fact that the Union Jack seems to be upside down.
     
  12. Relayer1

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    I'll bet Chavs are 'innit'...

    :)
     
  13. Flake

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    The building with the union jack on it is the building that explodes!

    I wonder what Scotland thinks about still being part of the UK in 2259? :lol:

    Of course, we know that in Star Trek the Soviet Union still launches starships in the 24th Century. (The Naked Now, TNG) so I guess its ok :)
     
  14. DarthTom

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    The real question is has the British Monarchy survived into the 22nd Century and is the Windsor family line still on the throne?
     
  15. section9

    section9 Commander Red Shirt

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    Yes, and expect the Last Holdout Nation State in the 23rd Century to be reigned, but not ruled, by a sometimes dotty family of imported German Monarchs.

    You've heard of the Space Hippies? You haven't lived until you've seen the 23rd Century Version of the Space Windsors...

    Oh, of course, the only question left for England is this: have they made it past Andorra or a visiting Rigelian Friendly Team in World Cup Qualifying?

    You know, from 2258 to 1966 is a really, really long time!

    Typical American mistake by a bunch of Yanks from Los Angeles who think that just because they know some lines from the "Spanish Inquisition" sketch and the "Dead Parrot" sketch, they get to fly the Union Flag upside down.

    Two words: "Jesus wept."
     
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  16. Keeper

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    My thoughts as well, it has something to do with the dissolution or dismantling of the Monarchy in the time between now and then.
     
  17. SalvorHardin

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    More importantly, is the Daily Mail still around?
     
  18. DarthTom

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    Well if Oxford can survive into the 24th century and Data is a professor at the University surely the Monarchy can survive well into the 22nd century. ;)
     
  19. Kruezerman

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    King Henry XVIII?
     
  20. Mr. Laser Beam

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    We know the Monarchy survives until at least ENT's time, as Malcolm Reed's father (and grandfather) are said to be Royal Navy veterans.
     

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