What would have improved Voyager?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by arwag, Dec 24, 2007.

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  1. arwag

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    I enjoyed Voyager as a series, but am aware that it tends to polarize the fan base. For those of you who dislike voyager, what would have improved it for you?
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  2. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    They improved it fine with Farscape and then 10 times better than that with Battlestar Galactica.

    Lone ship surrounded by enemies making it's way off to the other side of the galaxy to find a home called earth. :)
     
  3. number6

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    UPN not dicking with it.
     
  4. Eminence

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    More B'Elanna!!!
     
  5. Kegek

    Kegek Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Exactly. Most of VOY's flaws can be traced back to this problem. Even the fact the creative team that just got DS9 up and running was a little tired and reluctant to create yet another new show can be traced back to the fact UPN demanded a Star Trek show as its flagship property.
     
  6. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    One word: Shatner.
     
  7. RandyS

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    ^Why is that always the answer?? The guy's not God you know......

    But, on topic: Better writing, less Seven of Nine.
     
  8. KiraDax

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    More edge, a lot less reset button.
     
  9. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Shatner's barely not god.

    Kiradax it wasn't that there was a reset button more than half the adventures were about different quicksilver alien duplicates.
     
  10. The Great Meech

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    A different writing staff.
     
  11. misskim86

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    One or two giant story arches like DS9 had.

    No Neelix
     
  12. RandyS

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    Agreed.
     
  13. voss749

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    1) No chakotay- make Tom Paris an older rogueish man and a commander.
    2) Crew finds out Seska is cardassian but she stays on anyway...no stupid pregnancy. I always liked Seskas acidic wit...instead of a cardboard cutout villain she would have worked better as a foil
    3) B'lanna looks and acts more klingon
    4) No neelix
    5) No holodecks
    6) Scarcity...if you everything you need where are the plot twists?

    7) The maqui and the federation do not have to be enemies but they do have to do things differently.
     
  14. Jack Bauer

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    Stupid UPN executives interfering with the creative process too much.
     
  15. Wil has a posse

    Wil has a posse Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    This should be bolded and underlined.

    :)
     
  16. Cyke101

    Cyke101 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Actually, I'd just go with 'Holodeck as safe and reliable toy,' not 'Holodeck as plot-of-the-week.'
     
  17. kobeyashi maru

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    Year of Hell: the Series.
     
  18. Anwar

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    But would that have kept the interest of the casual viewer, which is what UPN wanted? BSG couldn't, and that show is for the die-hard niche fans.
     
  19. KiraDax

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    Actually, thinking about it more, it wasn't even so much the stories or the acting or such that made the show fall mostly flat. It was simply the overall background atmosphere. Voyager was just too clean.

    The uniforms were rank and file neat. Bulkheads and floors were sparkling whole and unscratched (not to mention the most completely bland color scheme possible). Repairs happened at the snap of a finger (or at least by Janeway's second snap). You never heard complaints about food shortages or berthing crunches, replicator failings, or power conservation blackouts. Nobody missed home for more than five seconds, and everyone got along peachy keen after five minutes.

    For a ship lost 70 years from home, life was just too easy.
     
  20. TMara

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    They should have made it more an ensemble show and not just about 2 or 3 characters.

    They should have tried to do something new with the charaters and not repeated the same stories over and over again (The Doctor and Seven always discovered humanity in their eps, B'Elanna always came to terms with her Klingon side, Tuvok always lost control...)

    Their situation (alone in unknown territory, looking for supplies, missing their families back home) should have been more developed. Who missed family anyway? B'Elanna and Tom were estranged from theirs, Chakotay's father was dead, Janeway's as well, Neelix's family was dead, too, so was Seven's, the Doctor didn't have any. Kes' family was probably dead, too. That leaves Harry and Tuvok. And Tuvok wouldn't show he missed them. So we always got the impression they didn't really care too much about going home....

    Maria
     
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