Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by StCoop, Sep 12, 2013.
This is why I like to think of myself as a Blakes 7 fan who's merely Who-curious...
Huh? Referencing them is not bad. Them not appearing is bad.
There's no reason why she WOULD have regenerated if she's settled down on some relatively save planet. She would age (the first doctor aged to what he looked like when we first saw him with (as far as we know) no regenerations.
Again, that would be a writing issue, not a problem with the premise, if it was 3 hours running up and down corridors.
Seriously, just implying that it would be padded like that doesn't mean the premise is bad, it just points out the need to avoid lazy, umimaginative writing!
It is possible to write 3 hours of solid entertainment!
I thought that was true for ANY and ALL fandoms.
Never mind about budget or actor availability or anything like that...
STCOOP implied having them voicing paintings was worse than not having them in it at all! Whereas to me it seems a very good all around compromise (always assuming that's what they've actually done)
^ Good writing doesn't have to be expensive. And, actor availability is just something to work with. If one actor isn't available, you go with another. It's a fallacy to assume all classic Doctors have to be present.
Ah, so referencing at the *expense* of an actual appearance is bad? That, I agree with.
Could they have thought that? Sure. Did they think that? Nope. They budgeted the special for a 60 minute slot. I'm really curious to see how well Moffat and his team make the budget stretch without the seams showing.
^ Yep, that's the problem, they thought small. Smaller than the 10th and 20th anniversary.
Really? I bet if McGann were in it people would be moaning that, strictly speaking, he isn't a classic Doctor.
As for actor availability, given the man I was specifically talking about was Matt Smith because he jetted off soon after filming wrapped to work on Gosling's film I think his absense would have been noted!
Do you think I wouldn't love to see one or all of the classic Doctors in the special? I would, but this is the real world and we don't always get what we want, so if all we get are their voices so be it, it's not like they're being airbrushed out of existance, both RTD and Moffat have referenced all the classic docs many times.
As for the length of the bloody thing, this still bugs me, because length is no guarentee of quality. Heck I'll take Time Crash over the Two Doctors any day of the week!
The BBC allocated a budget for the special, and it seems likely that they allocated a time/length, because, you know, they have other shows to fit in, even on the 23rd November.
you know, I wanna bet the budget for the 50th probably exceeds the 10th and 20th put togeather, even adjusted for inflation
Sure, everything costs more these days in entertainment, even adjusting for inflation! Nothing unusual about that.
But, Matt Smith IS in it! And, surely, some of it could've been covered during the last series. It wouldn't have required a larger budget if it was in some of the normal episodes. Not all, just a few.
True, length is no guarantee of quality. But, the biggest problem as of late is rushed endings. More time can fix that. You can have a more epic story without a rushed ending.
Nothing can guarantee quality, but more time can give more flexibility to achieve it.
Obviously, we'll have to agree to disagree. I am set to enjoy the anniversary, I'll just be missing true appearances of the classic Docs.
The saddest thing for me is that this is probably the last chance for some of the original actors to appear as their Doctor.
Did they, though? We don't know how epic the story will be, as we've not seen it yet. The number of Doctors present has little bearing on the episode's scale.
Well, I think that's part of the complaint. The thought is that the Anniversary could have been more than a single episode. Basically, pull out all the stops and spare no expense kind of thing.
I'm not commenting on the episode. I think it'll be good. It might even be a satisfying anniversary special (the tease into it last episode was good and I'm avoiding most spoilers). However, "its too much to fit into a single episode" seems to illustrate the problem rather than explain away the problem.
^ And, if they didn't want to increase the budget, just use the last few stories of series 7 for the anniversary. They did that a bit with the series finale but certainly one story of the regular series could've featured a classic Doctor or two?
I truly am expecting that I'll enjoy Day of the Doctor. Nothing leads me to think it'll be bad. And, if it is good, I doubt I'll be complaining!
I just worry about a rushed ending and wish they would've included at least some of the classic Doctors in what may well be the last opportunity for them. That does seem to be a huge waste.
And I've always admitted to have watched Trek first - it originally used to be on *between* Pertwee's seasons...
True, but I'd rather an actress who could still act... And I prefer to view toe woman in white in End Of Time as Susan rather than the Doctor's mum, cos the latter makes no fucking sense...
It certainly can be, but in my experience DW fandom is especially bad for it.
Yea, it was a joke reaction (See Mr. Winky Face)
I would be ecstatic if it was 3 hours, even with padding (I enjoy the Pertwee and earlier 6 parters with all the Corridor running and capture/escape. Though, those were done that way, because it was a weekly Serial)
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