What happened to the rest of Vengeance's Section 31 crew?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Cadet49, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. Cadet49

    Cadet49 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    What happened to the rest of Vengeance's crew when Khan took over? Did they try to re-take the ship from him, after he took over the bridge?
     
  2. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Went through the windshield when the Vengeance crashed. I'm guessing Starfleet doesn't use genuine GM parts. :eek:
     
  3. starburst

    starburst Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Any that were still alive would have died in the crash, Sulu said no one should have been able to survive.

    I can bet though that Khan shut down life support to avoid any remaining crew to try and retake the Bridge, where as the ones on the Bridge he may have already killed (or at least planned to) before Spock's trick took the Vengence down.
     
  4. Set Harth

    Set Harth Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I still don't get why he said that. How would he know? It's not like the ship exploded on impact. Given the nature of the crash it seems entirely possible that a few regular people could have survived.
     
  5. Chemahkuu

    Chemahkuu Admiral Admiral

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    Lower decks, splatted on impact or drowned when in the stardrives traumatic severance and submertion.

    Saucer, likely battered to death or crushed outright.

    Bridge, well something of mass had to impact the viewscreen hard enough to smash it through...
     
  6. drt

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    The people in the secondary hull (if any) probably started to have a bad day when the torpedoes exploded.
     
  7. DonIago

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    Under the circumstances I think it's a minor miracle the warp core apparently didn't breach.

    Then again, maybe Khan ejected it beforehand because he wasn't feeling completely suicidal.
     
  8. Kevman7987

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    Hmm. Khan did beam our main cast into the Enterprise' brig. Maybe the unconscious Section 31 mercenaries and Robocop's corpse ended up being beamed over too?
     
  9. Chemahkuu

    Chemahkuu Admiral Admiral

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    Since that would have meant about 5 other beams on the bridge, and we only see the 3 of the Enterprise crew, nope. He just left them.
     
  10. Shilliam Watner

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    I agree with the poster above. I think when the saucer stopped from it's destruction through the city and tilted downwards, the bridge crew all went out the viewscreen/window. As for the others, I think they were killed by the torpedoes going off as the hull breaches sucked the air out. And he probably suffocated the others by shutting the air off except for the bridge.
     
  11. Franklin

    Franklin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    It would be a high probability guess for normal humans. Except Spock did seem annoyed at what Sulu said given Khan is anything but normal.

    Yeah. That was not a good place to be. Except the bay did look empty. What's always bothered me is how 72 (six dozen!) torpedoes going off inside the secondary hull didn't just obliterate Vengeance right then and there where she stood in space, especially considering Scotty's concern with their effect on the Enterprise and its warp core. Helluva strong ship, I guess.
     
  12. YellowSubmarine

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    He could have beamed them up to another section of a ship, not locked up. That could have been a subplot.
     
  13. Chemahkuu

    Chemahkuu Admiral Admiral

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    I honestly don't think he cared, his plan seemed to consist of taking control of Vengeance and doing away with her minimal crew all along.
     
  14. SeerSGB

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    Khan jettisoned them through the aft nacelle.

    TOS style warp cores didn't go pop every time someone sneezed at them No rolling under a dropping blast door for Scotty; just fix the damn engine and move on with your day.
     
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  15. BillJ

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    There was a definite lack of quality in the 24th century warp cores. Damn things were threatening to blow up all the time.
     
  16. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

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    Part of Khan's work with Section 31 was to come up with technology that protected the warp core.

    As for the rest of Vengeance' crew, two words:

    Chunky Salsa
     
  17. SeerSGB

    SeerSGB Admiral Admiral

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    Oddly, all of them were from New York city.

    TOS engines were more like muscle cars: Something breaks, you grab a toolkit, pop the hood, fix it while downing a beer.

    TNG engines: Is like more modern cars. Something breaks, you might be able to fix it, more likely you just going to fuck something up that's more expensive to fix and the engine will blow on you going down the road.
     
  18. bbjeg

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    What happened to the rest of Vengeance's Section 31 crew?

    They fell into that portal called 'not needed for the plot'.
     
  19. shatastrophic

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    They went to the same place the music comes from...
     
  20. SeerSGB

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    They went to the same as Optimus Prime's trailer and Voyager's shuttle supply