What happened to Jennifer Lien?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by Infern0, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. Dream

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    That's true. But I imagine Starfleet wanted at least a Captain to command the Enterprise-D which was the flagship.

    Also we saw Commander Sisko being in charge of the Defiant.
     
  2. Guy Gardener

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    I think the paper work just got held up on that.

    They tried to make him a Captain as soon as the Defiant was first posted but even the bureaucracy of the Federation is a slack witted mule.
     
  3. teacake

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    Surely they've evolved past paperwork?
     
  4. Lighthammer

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    In fairness, we only ever followed cruisers. If we had a series that followed an escort or something...
     
  5. teacake

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    Who cares what their rank is. Someone is the Boss Person of the ship and that's that.
     
  6. Guy Gardener

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    But inside the Federation, when a ship with a captain says jump, all other ships commanded by commanders have to jump.

    Just because it's a paperless society, don't think that there isn't paper work.

    That's Kim's job.

    Quartermaster.

    (Olden day phrase. Identical Duties .)

    If shit goes missing and he can't explain how or why it's gone missing, he gets court martialed.
     
  7. teacake

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    So how come he didn't get court martialed over all those shuttles?
     
  8. Bad Thoughts

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    One series did so. It was even addressed as meta-narrative in one episode:

    (And yes, making Sisko a commander rather than a captain was considered by many at the time to be a reflection of the studio's unease with racial issues.)
     
  9. Guy Gardener

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    He knew who took them (Chakotay) and who crashed them (Chakotay).

    Paperwork is about knowing where something is, or the burning wreck of it.

    And every time after Chakotay crashed a shuttle and did not return it to Kim, then Kim made the XO fill out an accident report and shifted all liability from his lap.

    You see, what should have gotten Kim in Trouble is how Seska snuck a fricking replicator off the ship and he didn't notice.

    That's the same as you coming home from work tomorrow with a photocopier.

    How shit is your office manager if s/he doesn't notice till after the new year?
     
  10. teacake

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    BUT maybe Seska replicated the replicator. Howzat for smarts.
     
  11. teacake

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    Also IF I worked in an office I would steal something a lot more interesting than a photocopier. Like maybe people's personal coffee mugs. With their DNA on them.
     
  12. Melakon

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    Sisko was so unhappy at the beginning of the series, they should have made that something for him to grouse about. "Those featherpluckers at Starfleet Command didn't promote me to captain because I'm BLACK!"
     
  13. teacake

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    No no Melakon, this is the evolved future! The only discrimination is against those dirty kids that got their genes played with by their overachieving parentals.
     
  14. Melakon

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    Probably those same overachieving parents with the holonannies.
     
  15. teacake

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    My holonannies will be programmed to be beach bums. They'll just drift around, vaguely making sandwiches and offering the kids fruit. Of course they will be ready to intervene in the case of dangerous behavior or flailing in the pool etc.. and they will move FAST. But everything will be so chilled out that you might go quite a few years before you see such excitement.
     
  16. Melakon

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    Imagine the sand castles they would build.
     
  17. King Daniel Beyond

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    A child raised by a holographic nanny is going to have serious problems in later life differentiating what's real and what isn't.
     
  18. teacake

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    Not if the Hologram rights movement succeeds.
     
  19. Bry_Sinclair

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    Which would be a nightmare. You wouldn't be able to enjoy the Vulcan Love Slave trilogy without going to court for all the debauchery you'd get up to within the comforts and privacy of the holosuite.
     
  20. Melakon

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    Your holographic Vulcan Love Slave might prefer living with your neighbor instead of you, and enacts an interruption of service until you agree.