What episodes of TNG should I watch before First Contact?

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  1. Nibbz

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    Nearly finishing up with TOS movies and would like to continue onward to TNG movies. Just wondering what episodes I should watch to get enough backstory to understand and appreciate First Contact to the fullest. Thanks.
     
  2. Dream

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    Best of Both Worlds
    Best of Both Worlds part 2


    You should eventually check out the rest of TNG since it is a very good show.
     
  3. DalekJim

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    Just these. I was going to add the other Borg episodes but they'd actually be detrimental to your viewing as you'd be wondering why the Federation are suddenly concerned about sending Picard to fight the Borg when they've already ordered him to post-Best of Both Worlds.

    Or where Picard's weird obsession and grudge has come from when in the previous Borg encounter he barely acknowledged they were even there.
     
  4. R. Star

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    Guess you could throw I, Borg in there, but it's not essential.
     
  5. Tosk

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    You should also watch Family. As well as being a great follow up to BoBW, it's backstory for Generations. And then you should watch Datalore, Brothers and Descent 1 & 2 so that the Data stuff has context.

    Really you should just watch all of TNG. ;)
     
  6. Nibbz

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    Speaking of Generations, which episodes should I watch before that?
     
  7. DalekJim

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    There's nothing you can watch that will prepare you for Generations :p. Up until 2009, it was the worst Star Trek movie.

    Seriously though, you don't need to have seen any TNG before it really. It's self-contained unlike First Contact which has a backstory.
     
  8. Mr Silver

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    Family - Picard
    Q Who - Guinan and El-Aurians
    Descent Part 1 and 2
    Brothers
    Datalore
    Silicone Avatar
    The Mind's Eye

    Each of those will prep nicely for GEN.
     
  9. Dream

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    Agreed.

    All TNG movies with the exception of First Contact felt like they were made for newcomers who never saw the show.. First Contact was the only TNG movie that became better if you knew the backstory.
     
  10. Tiberius

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    And after you watch First Contact, check out an episode of Enterprise in season 2 named "Regeneration".
     
  11. tomalak301

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    I would also include Family and The Drumhead to Dream's list. Both show the effects and denial Picard went through leading up to the movie.
     
  12. BillJ

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    Threshold.

    After watching it you won't even notice the plot holes in First Contact. :lol:
     
  13. Greg Cox

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    Honestly, all you really need is "The Best of Both Worlds," both parts.

    Everything else is supplemental, like reading the sidenotes in the Annotated Shakespeare or whatever. Interesting, if you want to explore the text in more depth, but not essential if you just want to watch "Romeo & Juliet."
     
  14. Paper Moon

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    I agree, except that I really think you should include "Family" with "BOBW," because they really do create a trilogy, and "Family" establishes the emotional context Picard has about the Borg going into First Contact.

    But yeah, everything else is supplemental, I agree.
     
  15. Mojochi

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    You might want to check out Redemption 1&2 for an introduction to Lursa & B'Etor
     
  16. Paper Moon

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    I mean this facetiously (for the most part), but you don't really need to know anything about Lursa and B'Etor other than that they are Evil Klingons Who Want To Destroy The Enterpriseā„¢. I mean, yes, TPTB deserve credit for using previously established villains, but their choice in that respect leaves something to be desired in my opinion.

    But, yeah, "Redemption" is a great two-parter, so you should watch it anyway. :)
    (And it is a thoughtful suggestion in any case. :))

    Honestly, I think a better use of "background episode" time would be to watch something that introduces you to Guinan and her Intuition. I think "Yesterday's Enterprise" would be good introduction in that sense. (And it's a killer episode in any case.) Understanding her character as she appeared in the series makes her role in this story more poignant, I think.
     
  17. R. Star

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    You can literally substitute any generic villain for those two in Generations and it wouldn't effect the film in any way. You wouldn't even have to change any of their lines.
     
  18. Greg Cox

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    Also maybe "Family," for relevant bits of Picard's background.
     
  19. Tiberius

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    Soran struck Tomalak across the face, sending the Romulan reeling.

    He looked back up, touching his mouth where green blood was beginning to flow. Tomalak met Soran's eyes and saw the anger in them. "I hope, for your sake," the Romulan said, "that you are initiating a mating ritual..."

    Maybe not ALL of the lines can stay unchanged...
     
  20. Dale Sams

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    In the spirit of that "Most unjustly hated ep thread"

    I loved Generations. The opening part is fantastic, I loved the soundtrack. Thought Stewart's acting in relation to what happens to his family was awesome.

    Everything else was 'ok'. But I loved those parts.

    "My God...was anyone in here?"
    "aye."

    edit: You don't have to defend your hatred with a long list. I understand why peeps didn't like it.
     

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