What episode is the most unreferenced?

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by JoeZhang, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. JoeZhang

    JoeZhang Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I suspect this question is virtually impossible to answer but lets take a stab at it - what episode of any series do you think is the most unreferenced in Trek Literature?
     
  2. Kertrats47

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    "Shades of Grey" (TNG)

    I suspect this thread will turn into someone mentioning an episode, and then the encyclopedic experts coming up with the few times it is actually referenced. Which sounds like fun!
     
  3. zarkon

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    Surely an Enterprise episode, since so few people watched it through.

    Would have to be an average episode, terrible episodes get referenced a lot
     
  4. WarsTrek1993

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    ^ I concur; ENT usually only gets minor references here and there, not really any episodic references to say, Demons or Terra Prime. Maybe the occasional Xindi War reference.
     
  5. King Daniel Beyond

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    Erm... Enterprise's Columbia NX-02 featured heavily in Destiny, the biggest thing to happen to Trek novels in a very long time. Enterprise references are everywhere in Trek lit.

    I'd say the least referenced is.... "The Magicks of Megas Tu". Or possibly "The Infinite Vulcan" (Bring back Giant Spock Clone!!)
     
  6. WarsTrek1993

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    ^That one escaped me, sorry. I have no excuse, since Destiny is one of my favorite of the Trek books!
     
  7. Odo

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    Hopefully 'Threshold.'

    Didn't Braga even try and 'remove' it from canon?
     
  8. toughlittleship

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    ^ I think there was later episode of VOY were someone said warp 10 was impossible.
     
  9. King Daniel Beyond

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    One of the Lives of Dax stories is a prequel to "Threshold"
     
  10. ronny

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    Man I don't remember that at all. Are you sure? Which story?
     
  11. Deranged Nasat

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    The Torias one. The shuttle accident that kills him is related to the Excelsior's transwarp experiments.

    Threshold also gets a very brief reference in Homecoming, when Mark's wife Carla asks Janeway if she ever thought of having children. Janeway considers bringing up the lizard babies but wisely decides not to...
     
  12. Christopher

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    I don't think "The Alternative Factor" has been referenced in any tie-ins... no, wait, there is one Strange New Worlds story that features Lazarus.


    The Torias Dax story, "Infinity" by Susan Wright, has Torias (Dax's shortest-lived host, killed in an accident 6 months after joining) lose his life testing the same transwarp theory seen in "Threshold," as part of the development of the Excelsior's transwarp drive in the TOS movie era.
     
  13. Odo

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    I read 'Infinity' too. Whoops! Though my comment was more of a statement of hope, as the Janeway/Paris amphibian mating thing always freaked me out.

    I enjoyed 'Infinity' though. Dax's hosts always seemed interesting.
     
  14. JD

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    Have there ever been any references to Spock's Brain?
     
  15. ronny

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    I'm pretty sure DRGIII said he referenced all of the TOS episodes and movies, and maybe the TAS episodes, in the Crucible trilogy. So if we're looking for something that's never been referenced I think we need to look at the later series.
     
  16. DonIago

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    Pretty sure ENT - "Twilight" has never been referenced.
     
  17. DarkHorizon

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    I believe there is an oblique reference in Watching the Clock - Christopher has stated that he tried to reference every Trek episode involving time travel.

    EDIT: Yup. Page 121.
     
  18. BillJ

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    It's reference in an off-handed manner by McCoy in The Rings of Time.
     
  19. TJ Sinclair

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    Ooh, I got one. TNG "Masks."

    I'd be very surprised if that crapfest got a mention anywhere.
     
  20. Markonian

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    Ha, wrong! :rommie: The D'Arsay are referenced in a STO mission. In there, you have to scan their graves and find out the were poikliothermic, i.e. amphibian. That's why they revere the sun so much.

    Also, when I was a child, this was one of my favourite episodes.
     
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