Discussion in 'Miscellaneous' started by T'Girl, Feb 21, 2012.
6.02 E 23 per mole of gasoline.
Today in Kingston it is $1.23 a litre. That works out to about $4.65 a U.S. gallon.
The middle east can GFY.
Also to be filed in the "unpleasant things I didn't know before today but do after googling" category:
- Momentum is 5% ethanol.
- V-Power is 0-5% ethanol.
With hindsight I suspect ethanol starting being added to Shell's premium fuel back when they switched from Optimax to V-Power branding in the UK about a year or so ago.
Apparently, all regular grade fuels here are now E5 blends too.
But I wish the premium ones were proper petrol. The thing with ethanol is that if you leave it alone for too long, it will separate. Sure, it will take a couple of weeks to do that, but think about how long you might be out of the country for sometimes? Plus, it's hygroscopic.
I guess if V-Power contains some ethanol, I shouldn't worry too much about the slightly higher amount in Momentum, as I've been using that just fine already. But I'll probably aim for a 3:1 ratio in terms of filling up from Tesco vs Shell, instead of my initial plan of about 5:1, just to keep the overall ethanol content definitely under 5% (I usually fill at about 1/4 tank left, so assuming an average V-Power content of 3%, I should be OK with a 3:1 ratio). Will save me about £30 a year compared to V-Power all year round, at current differentials, while maintaining the same overall RON and being relatively confident about not putting too much ethanol into the car.
All very dull, I know but on topic about petrol prices, and you never know, it might just help out someone else trying to search for these things in future.
Over $4.00 for regular unleaded.
I'm getting a bike.
About $3.69 or $3.79 a gallon for regular unleaded. Depends on the gas station and part of town, but there's not a single station I see that currently sells gas for any less than $3.69.
$4.39/gal in Midcity Los Angeles
I'm car-free in LA and get around just fine.
£6.14 is about $9.73 US. So, they are much, much higher.
Which is why I have little sympathy for Americans who complain about Petrol pices, When they are around half the price we pay in the UK and other parts of the world.
True the bulk of it is tax and duty
Then again perspective of how much you pay might play into it as well as too how you view the price.
I miss dollar a gallon gas. Just because it sucks for you doesn't mean it also doesn't suck for us.
It depends what figure your economy is built around though. Margin-wise, I don't there are too many differences between UK and US businesses. Therefore an energy price rise in the States has a broadly similar impact in terms of profitability and quality of life as it does here. Just because the absolute figure is lower doesn't mean the relative impact is all that much less. In some ways, the inflationary impact may be higher in the States, if their firms have less ability to absorb an input price hike without passing it directly on, and depending on the nature of their logistics operations.
Not that I'd be objecting on a personal level if the various fuel duties here were cut, and there's a Laffer-curve-esque argument to be made suggesting it could be done in a tax-neutral manner.
I love it when you talk intellectual to us...
Rises in petroleum impact everyone either directly or indirectly. If you own a car it affects you directly, if you use public transportation it might affect you indirectly in higher fairs. Same goes for the goods we buy in stores, the hauliers have to make money so the cost of transportation goes up.
If you've ever seen Ferris Bueller, you already know what it means. Let me hand over the most exciting economics teacher in the world to explain:
(Interesting aside: he's actually an economist IRL by original profession; all the lines are his own ad-libs having been asked to talk about something he knew well. He had no script...)
It's around $3.85 a gallon...
*I miss the days when it was around 87 cents a gallon... now it's getting near the point where it'll be too expensive to go out anywhere ...*
I remember watching a scene of the original DIE HARD(1988) and seeing gas station signs advertising regular unleaded for 78 or 84 cents a gallon...and that was in Los Angeles!!! Those days will never come again unless the government nationalizes and subsidizes the petroleum industry in this country...and we all know short of a seismic shift in the way this nation's leaders and economy operate that just isn't gonna happen. And it's probably for the best. If there's one thing that's just as bad if not worse than completely unrestricted, Darwinian capitalism it's allowing the dunderheaded twits in Washington, D.C. to have a monopoly over a significant part of the economy.
(*Gets off soapbox*)
Hell, when I started driving in 2001, I was only paying 89 cents for gas.
Yea I saw that movie recently... that one took place around one of the last times it was that price where I live .
Agreed. There needs to be some control and regulation of that... meaning the prices, OPEC and the oil speculators.
@ Rojohen: It was somewhere in the 90 something cent range to about a dollar or so where I live back in 01' -- iirc.
All gasoline deteriorates, not just ethanol. Pure gasoline just takes a little longer.
Over here, they sell a product called STA-BIL in auto parts stores. This is an additive that will stabilize the fuel in your car and prevent deterioration of the fuel for quite a long period of time. This product is mostly marketed to the collector car crowd as they will leave their vehicles parked for anywhere between 6 and 9 months at times.
$1.35 a liter to day.
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