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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous' started by Warped9, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. The Naughty List

    The Naughty List Working the Pole Moderator

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    So you apply the same rigorous standards to this as you do to your hatred of any Trek that's happened since the fall of the Soviet Union? Good to know.

    You know what also makes a buttload of money? Fossil fuels and the corporations that mine, drill, and refine them. So, if it's all about money, why turn on that longstanding and surefire source of revenue for something new and risky and experimental that other corporations are fighting to suppress?

    So, you're smarter than all the experts in this field, and they're all in on a massive conspiracy of tens of thousands of scientists to deceive governments and the people that has never been exposed. Your arrogance is in a life or death struggle with your ignorance there.

    The "Y2K Bug" was a very real computer issue which many businesses and governments took proactive measures to correct (and others failed to), and which the media ignorantly spread over-dramatic misinformation about. It was not predicted to be an end of civilization scenario by reputable media outlets and computer scientists. So yes, I do remember it, and you are grossly wrong once again.

    Also, 68% of climate studies in the 60s and 70s predicted warming and only 10% predicted cooling, with vastly less than that predicting anything as dramatic as a new ice age. Keep trying, though. It's amusing.

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    http://www.skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm
     
  2. Fruitcake

    Fruitcake Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Yes I was terrified to be told it would be raining this week. Terrified.
     
  3. sidious618

    sidious618 Admiral Admiral

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    I love the rain. But I don't love climate change.
     
  4. Fruitcake

    Fruitcake Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I remember in the 80's they were predicting that the Greenhouse Effect (which no one mentions any more, guess it is renamed) was going to make everything WET, coastal areas would flood, there would be sooo much rain.. which was potentially the best news ever for Australia.
     
  5. Miss Chicken

    Miss Chicken Little three legged cat with attitude Admiral

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    Wouldn't too much rain cause more problems than it would solve because of the salinity problems it would bring?
     
  6. Darth Duck

    Darth Duck Commodore Commodore

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    Guys, let's not jump all over Warped9. It's not his fault. I just worry that there are more people out there like him, victims of the Canadian, er, Harper Government's muzzling of scientists.
     
  7. Kemaiku

    Kemaiku Admiral Admiral

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    7.193 billion

    http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

    Yeah, all of us chugging down fossil fuel powered energy wastefully every day can't possible be affecting anything at all...
     
  8. Robert Maxwell

    Robert Maxwell so far this is a dumb future Premium Member

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    Nonsense. People should take responsibility for spouting bullshit. Maybe if someone is honestly too dumb to know any better, I would cut them some slack, but Warped9 seems to have enough mental faculties at his disposal to think critically about this. He just chooses not to, because it's easier to fall back on conspiracy hoohah.
     
  9. A Shiny Kaylee Christmas

    A Shiny Kaylee Christmas Have An Awesome Possum Holiday! Moderator

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    It's easier to believe something insane and complain about it than actually try to do something useful.
     
  10. Leviathan

    Leviathan Captain Captain

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    The real cause of global warming? ME.

    It's frickin freezing on this rock the last few millennia... been trying to warm it back up for ages. Geez, why so attached to the cold??
     
  11. A Shiny Kaylee Christmas

    A Shiny Kaylee Christmas Have An Awesome Possum Holiday! Moderator

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    So how is your brother Snow Miser doing these days?
     
  12. rhubarbodendron

    rhubarbodendron Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    this is slightly off-topic, but we are having a weather photo contest over at http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=230818 Join the fun! There are only 4 entries yet which are far too few for a decent poll. We're looking forward to seeing what the weather is like where you live =)

    You can post anything that's related with your current local weather/climate/season. The only rule is that photos must be 150 x 150 pixels at maximum.
     
  13. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

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    No doubt about the climate change. But there is no problem with it. The only problem is that people have a major problem with change. 10,000 years ago, the place I'm currently sitting at was covered by a glacier. Had our current society existed back then... oh boy, the panic! Rescue that glacier, otherwise humanity will be doomed! Judt accept it, stop panicking and move on.

    Any countermeasures to man-made warming are likely to backfire due to overcompensation. The thought of being able to control it is nuts. The only thing we should do is to reduce the influence (negative and positive) as best as possible, and start adapting, just as we always have before we turned into inflexible pricks, err, bricks.
     
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  14. HaventGotALife

    HaventGotALife Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    We have seen massive storms in the last 10 years, ones that shatter records in both cost of damages (Sandy, Katrina, Haiyan) and its size and strength. We have seen Tornadoes that have destroyed whole communities in the last 5 years.

    http://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2012/12/2012_is_southeast_michigans_wa.html

    That said, we have had temperate winters the last two years in Michigan. We've had two of the driest winters on record. 2012, which had no El Nino to blame it on, was the hottest year on record for this state. We lost nearly 230 million in produce because of the 85 degree days in March and November, two months we see usually see temperatures in the 40s and 50s.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/science/july-dec12/michigancherry_08-15.html

    We had a storm with 70 mph gusts the other day (400,000 people were without power across the state). We ARE seeing severe weather, at least in this state. The effect has been more cases of West Nile than any on record. Because we are having more weather that is to our south (our average temperature is the usual temperature for Indiana), about 500 miles up.

    http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/05/15/2012-was-worst-year-for-west-nile-virus-in-michigan/

    http://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf/2013/04/michigan_weather_update_just_h.html
     
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