Was Tuvok born on Vulcan?

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  1. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I don't recall when (if ever) Tuvok's actual birthplace was ever stated. Was he born on Vulcan?

    The reason I ask this is (WARNING: STAR TREK XI SPOILER AHEAD, I'M NOT KIDDING, DON'T READ THIS IF YOU DON'T LIKE SPOILERS, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU DO READ IT, MAJOR STAR TREK XI SPOILER IS APPROACHING):

    In the new Trek movie, Vulcan is destroyed. Since this film takes place a few years before TOS, it is apparently before Tuvok's birth, since he's only about 100 years old in Voyager. Does this mean that Tuvok can never be born in the new timeline?
     
  2. Guy Gardener

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    Sounds like an Enterprise script they kept recycling.
     
  3. JustKate

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    Well, according to Memory Alpha, which cites several episodes of Voyager, he was born on the Vulcanis Lunar Colony.

    And I will NOT read your spoiler, I won't, I won't, I won't. Yet, anyway. ;)
     
  4. Mr. Laser Beam

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    I'm sorry if anybody actually read my spoiler without wanting to. I thought if I revealed it was from Trek XI, it would be too obvious. I fixed it.

    We don't know exactly where that is, do we? We do know that Vulcan has no moon of course. So it can't be in Vulcan orbit. If it were, my spoiler would apply.
     
  5. Dane_Whitman

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    Different universes.
     
  6. Tachyon

    Tachyon Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Gaah! I read that spoiler! Why Tachyon, WHY?! [​IMG]
     
  7. JustKate

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    Because...it was there.

    I have very little self-control now, so I shall leave this thread immediately. ;)
     
  8. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Well, yeah, I know that. Obviously the existing universe/timeline won't be affected. I was strictly speaking of the new one.

    Hey, don't come crying to me. I clearly labelled it as a spoiler. And I relabelled it as a Trek XI spoiler before you read it. ;)
     
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  10. Tachyon

    Tachyon Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    But, but... Oh, in the name of Janeway - I'm a spoiler-whore with zero self-disclipine. When I see a spoiler button, me pushes it. I was programmed that way. [​IMG]







    :p
     
  11. TMara

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    That was the very first thing my friends and I thought about when we saw that movie on Tuesday night!!

    I checked my notes on Tuvie-boy, though (http://www.timrusstribute.com/Voyager.htm), and I don't think there is a problem. He was indeed born on Vulcanis Lunar Colony at Stardate 38774, which, according to my calculations would be the year 2264. It could work out.
     
  12. Praetor

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    Why, it's the moon of neighboring sister planet Vulcanis of course. Ya know the one that Vulcanians come from. ;)
     
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    We've seen Vulcan, all big and red and shiny, it can't be destroyed...are you sure you don't mean Romulus? Coz I heard that went Kaboom...
     
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    Crewman47 Commodore Newbie

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    The only problem there though is that the stardate is a TNG era stardate and 38774 would fall somewhere mid 2361. TOS stardates for 2264 would be hard to hazard an accurate guess becuase of the way TOS season 1 was aired but the dates went between 1312 and 3417.
     
  15. TMara

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    I know. But stardates have never made much sense to me anyway. And maybe there are different "stardate calendars" as well (like there are Islamic and Jewish and the Gregorian calendar on Earth right now) and Vulcanis Lunar Colony used a lesser used one to record birthdates (Vulcans probably have their own traditions...). ;-) I'm sure Tuvie is fine.;)
     
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    Well, the problem was always to reconcile what Spock said in TOS ("Vulcan has no moon") with the very obvious celestial bodies in Yesteryear and TMP (theater's cut). It may sound silly, but I always like the explanation from Spock's World: the bodies are Vulcan's sister planet (the name was T'Khut) and its moon (which name I can't remember), complete with the quote: "Well, techinally, Vulcan has no moon." "Damn right it doesn’t, it has a nightmare." So the Vulcanis Lunar Colony could be on that body, and everything would fit.
    The fact that Vulcan had a twin planet could even be linked to why the Romulans choose a double planet to settle on: it would be the most similar to their own.
     
  17. Hartzilla2007

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    People who have seen the movie at the places its already out have confirmed that Vulcan is destroyed in the film.
     
  18. Praetor

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    That works for me.
     
  19. Gary7

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    Well, yes but...
    You may see Vulcan destroyed in the beginning, but that doesn't mean it can't be restored by "correcting" the timeline... ;)
     
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    Would it be in the Mars?
     

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