Was the Temporal Integrity Commission/Relativity/Daniels on vacation?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by roguephoenix, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. Praetor

    Praetor Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Re: Relativity

    I just re-read most of this thread. It hurts my brain.
     
  2. M'Sharak

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    Re: Relativity

    Okay, I see. The Relativity is a Federation Starfleet ship with a Starfleet crew, but the Memory Alpha article also mentions that the ship's dedication plaque contains reference to a Temporal Integrity Commission, the exact nature of which is not explained.
     
  3. nx1701g

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    Paging Captain Braxton of the Federation Timeship Relativity...

    SPOILERS

    Wouldn't Captain Braxton or another member of the Federation's Temporal Branch be assigned to integrate the timelines?
     
  4. M

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    Re: Paging Captain Braxton of the Federation Timeship Relativity...

    Personally, I would live a happy life if I never heard of Captain Braxton and all the other 29th century nonsense again. I think it never made a lick of sense and (sadly) they took their own concept way too seriously.
     
  5. Brent

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    Re: Paging Captain Braxton of the Federation Timeship Relativity...

    Been discussed before, what happened, happened, heh.

    But I agree with you, since people of the 29th century and on can scan time with sensors like sensors scan space, they should have seen instantly when the Narada went into the past, and went to investigate.

    However, one reason they might not have is because it was a natural event in the timeline, and not a synthetic event.

    For example, when Voyager went to 1996, it was an accident caused by a future time agent failing in his job to destroy Voyager, and they were pulled into the past.

    When Spock destroyed the supernova with red matter, that created a time rift, but that was always meant to happen, or something, I dunno, now I'm confused.
     
  6. od0_ital

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    Re: Paging Captain Braxton of the Federation Timeship Relativity...

    I'm okay without Starfleet's "timecops," mostly 'cause they had to recast Captain Braxton, thus makin' him his own temporal anomaly.
     
  7. nx1701g

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    Re: Paging Captain Braxton of the Federation Timeship Relativity...

    Ah but Voyager also clarified that as Captain Braxton had been reintegrated himself (Futures End Braxton was different from Relativity Braxton).

    Sorry had to be evil.
     
  8. DiSiLLUSiON

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    Re: Paging Captain Braxton of the Federation Timeship Relativity...

    The destruction of Vulcan might have huge, positive consequences for the Federation in the far future. As such, the new timeline might be infinitely more agreeable then the one it replaced. That would be enough reason for the timecops not to interfere, since they're not actually trying to repair the timeline -- they'll always try to shift it in their parties (in this case the Federation)'s favor.
     
  9. SalvorHardin

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    Re: Paging Captain Braxton of the Federation Timeship Relativity...

    Isn't there already a long thread on this subject around here ?
     
  10. erebus

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    Re: Paging Captain Braxton of the Federation Timeship Relativity...

    i'm getting very much on the side of no easy time-travel, because i'm sure these writers have the ability to solve problems more conventionally and produce more intresting and insightful results as a consequence of that process.
     
  11. Tulaberry whine

    Tulaberry whine Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Re: Paging Captain Braxton of the Federation Timeship Relativity...

    Can Braxton wait until after Abramsverse DS9 wraps up in about 30 years' time and then hit the big ol' reset button? :techman:
     
  12. roguephoenix

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    Relativity 2.0

    so how come the relativity didn't see fit to stop this temporal incursion from happening? it clearly is not the timeline that would have lead to it's creation because if so, they wouldn't have bothered to correct the timeline in voyager as it would just be wiped completely anyway. it's not like it's beyond their reach anyway.
     
  13. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Re: Relativity 2.0

    We will just have to wait and find out. Perhaps the new timeline is somehow needed, and 29th century Starfleet (of the original) had a reason to leave it alone...besides, the original timeline wasn't affected, so why would the investigators have a problem with the new one? ;)
     
  14. Hyperspace05

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    Re: Relativity 2.0

    Ugh... The less heard about the USS Relativity and such organizations, the better.

    (One could make that argument for *every* single time travel use in Trek canon)
     
  15. Jeri

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    Re: Relativity 2.0

    Oh, gawd, temporal mechanics gives me a headache.
     
  16. RobertScorpio

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    Re: Relativity 2.0

    Ummmm...wow. This movie is trying very hard to help get STAR TREK fans layed...don't ruin it with these kinds of posts...please...

    Rob
     
  17. Captain_Rogers

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    Re: Relativity 2.0


    I knew it was only a matter of time before someone brought this up. I'm honestly surprised it took this long.

    Simple answer was the whole Relativity time police crap was one of the lamest plot threads ever.
     
  18. Jeri

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    Re: Relativity 2.0

    I loved Relativity and getting to see Seven in a science uniform. But temporal mechanics is not for the feint of heart.
     
  19. roguephoenix

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    Re: Relativity 2.0

    well what lead to the creation of the relativity is tied to what happened in the previous timeline. it has to be or else they would not be too concerned with what happened in that time line, i.e. trying to fix the mishaps that where happening on voyager. if that timeline was not really necessary, they wouldn't have wasted their time (pun intended) trying to fix the problem there as that time line would have become a moot point anyway as it would never come to pass. but since they did put effort into fixing problems there, means that's the timeline that would lead to it's creation. however, the events of the movie would make it difficult for events to happen again as they did before hence making the voyager era irrelevant.

    though on second thought, since they do live outside normal space-time, the fact that the events in the movie happened, wasn't something that was really detrimental. it could in fact accelerate or improve the future timeline which is why they left it alone...

    ah why do i think about this stuff???? >_<
     
  20. Lord Garth

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    Re: Relativity 2.0

    I don't think the Relativity saw the need to correct anything because the blackhole that Nero and Spock went through sent them not just into the past but into the past of a different timeline.

    Here's a theory of mine from another thread: