Unused crossover ideas

Discussion in 'Deep Space Nine' started by Danlav05, May 26, 2013.

  1. Tomalak

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    Nimoy was done with Spock after TUC pretty much, he only did Unification to promote the film. Maybe he would have done DS9, but I'm not convinced.
     
  2. Captain Clark Terrell

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    Yes. "The Search" happened on stardate 48213.1. "Caretaker" happened on 48315.6. Without knowing the length each digit represents, it's reasonable to conclude that at least several weeks passed between these episodes. Starfleet definitely should have known about the Dominion and the threat they represented by the time Voyager was ready to launch.

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  3. Tomalak

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    It doesn't mean that Janeway (or the Maquis) was given a full briefing though. They might be aware that the Odyssey was destroyed in a battle in the Gamma Quadrant, but that's not exactly relevant to Voyager's mission to hunt down Chakotay's ship in the Badlands.

    Given she set off from Deep Space Nine, you imagine Janeway might have at the very least have met Sisko, but then again since the Defiant isn't there in Caretaker, the main crew might have been away on a mission. Caretaker occurs between The Abandoned and Civil Defence in stardate chronology.
     
  4. T'Girl

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    As I understand canon, the books aren't shakey, they're completely outside. From what I gather from the few fans I know who still read the novels, the story line has venture so far outside the continuity of the shows/movies that they're basically in their own separate science fiction universe now.

    If (very unlikely) there were ever a series based on Captain Riker of the USS Titan (younger actor), odds are the ship in that series would look nothing like that ship from the contest on the novel covers. And the ship's crew would be different that those depicted in the novel stories.

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  5. Tomalak

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    In the olden days (the nineties!) when I read some of the novels, they were always made to fit with the TV series and films rather than form their own continuity, so there was rarely a massive conflict there. Now with the more "expanded universe" continuity in the novels, anything that happens in the prime universe after Nemesis in any future series or films will probably contradict those. Which is fair enough. I like the idea of that internal continuity, because I feel it rewards the loyal readers and makes for a richer set of characters. On the other hand, from my point of view it makes me almost certain to never read another Star Trek book again! I can't commit to picking up everything published to keep up with the story. I used to like the short story anthologies, because you could just pick them up and enjoy. Shame they cancelled the Strange New Worlds series.

    JJ's upcoming Star Wars sequels will almost certainly render Star Wars' novel continuity null and void, which will be quite funny to watch from the sidelines. :devil:
     
  6. M.A.C.O.

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    Yeah comics and books for EU Trek, Wars and just about anything else can get REALLY far out there. I most recently read Brannon Braga's HIVE comic. While I did enjoy it, and Brannon a renowned Trek writer wrote it. It felt to much like fanservice to his own ego and trying to fulfill his own goals that he could never bring to live on VOY. I support the official release of these works (books, games, comics) because I want more Trek.


    My big Wars fan friends have already had their temper tantrum that the JJ sequels will neglecting Jacen, Jania and Anakin Solo, Mara Jade Skywalker, and Cade Skywalker characters and other characters and stories from Star Wars EU.
     
  7. Lighthammer

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    That simply doesn't pan with the official stance of the relaunch novels unless you're talking about something entirely different.

    The relaunch novels and the Path to 2409 story archs are endorsed episodes. I won't use the term canon because that term itself is excessively subjective.

    The thing of it is, while it may not be exceedingly practical, it would be really awesome if a new series came out that was based on the relaunchs and Path to 2409 --- the biggest amount of work is already done and endorsing these franchise through a live action series would do some really neat things for Trek but most importantly reduce the cost a lot. That whole development stage of story line is already done going that route.
     
  8. Hober Mallow

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    Yep, and none of the writers pretend otherwise. The only difference is that now they are allowed to change things and build on those changes from book to book, but the books now are no more a part of studio-sanctioned continuity than any of the books of '90s were.
     

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