Trip & T'Pol: The Good That They Do

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  1. poundpuppy29

    poundpuppy29 Commander Red Shirt

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    I agree T&T are the one of the best ships ever in Trek. The only other one I like as much was B&T in Voyager. I think one of my fav eps was when Trip got her to admit she was Jealous
     
  2. Reanok

    Reanok Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yes I think Trip & T'Pol are one of the best couples ever in trek. They were special. I also like B'elanna and Tom too.
     
  3. tennisgirl

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    Welcome!

    The episode you're referring to is called Harbinger. Kind of an important one for us TnT 'shippers. :D
     
  4. boushh

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    ^^ Yeah, I thought the banter in "Harbinger" was good. That's the last episode I was able to watch on DVD along with the SciFi broadcast. I'm way behind obviously. I still enjoyed it though. It had great banter, great expressions, good humor, and one of their best kisses... IMO anyway. ;)
     
  5. tennisgirl

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    ^Yeah, hehehe, I think almost every time I comment on a TnT episode I end up praising JB's and CT's facial expressions. Those two could cover so much ground with just the look on their eyes... The banter in the VNP scene during Harbinger wouldn't have been half as effective without their respective facial expressions. The face CT makes on the "I'm... I'm jealous of myself?" line is hilarious. Gotta praise the actors, definitely.
     
  6. tothebridge

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    ^^Is this the one you mean? :lol:
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    Yeah, "Harbinger" had some classic T/T banter and great expressions -- including the scene when T'Pol lectures Trip about discretion
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    and later the "who's attracted to whom" conversation which goes along with the jealousy comments :)
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    boushh, I'm a bit behind, too.... I've been watching the episodes again on DVD and occasionally even manage to catch one or two on SciFi, but it's a busy time, so I'm usually a week or more behind in episodes (and caps).


    Anyway, a few comments on some of the earlier discussion....


    You're right...she does look more severe in that Augments scene. Even the hairstyle seems more severe than usual -- the bangs are brushed straight forward; whereas, in the "Daedalus" scene, they are slightly sideswept, which gives her a somewhat softer look.

    Also, like kalysto mentioned, I thought her appearance early in the season was affected by illness. Seems like there were reports that she and some of the other cast had been ill around that time, and JB looked rather fragile in some of those earlier episodes (e.g., Home). Visually, it didn't seem that she started to get back to her “normal” look until the Vulcan arc or even later.


    Yeah, one of the good things about TGTMD is that it picked up on a lot of the threads from “Terra Prime” and TATV but provided more character POV’s and insights, so the characters and their motivations seemed more fleshed out. I think the three main characters and especially T’Pol benefit from having that additional insight, so I hope to see it continued in the novels. In a way, it makes it easier to relate to them or at least better understand the rationale behind some of their actions and decisions.


    Yeah, unfortunately, the writers did establish a certain pattern with T/T, especially with T'Pol. At times, she seemed to only become proactive or take a step towards Trip when she felt that she had pushed him too far and/or was losing him…as seen in the Augments, Affliction, and even the Observer Effect bridge scene to some degree.

    A certain amount of confusion and angst was to be expected considering the cultural and biological differences, but I think it was frustrating at times when it carried through so much of S4 and even extended into TATV, with T’Pol realizing she would “miss” Trip and seemingly trying to validate that there was still some sort of connection between them. Coming six years after “Terra Prime,” it was a strange and disappointing place to leave T'Pol relative to the relationship – as if she hadn’t been able to commit but couldn’t let go (of Trip) either. Oh well, guess I should save those comments for when TATV airs in a few weeks.


    :)Yeah, in S4, there was a period when there seemed to be some rather odd shifts in Trip’s storyline, presumably to fit the needs of particular episodes. As mentioned before, I thought the writers could’ve done a better job with the setup for Trip’s transfer, but I guess that storyline developed too late in the game. Anyway, there were some interesting but rather angsty T/T scenes in last Monday’s SciFi block (The Aenar, Affliction, etc.), some of which I hope to put up at some point.

    In the meantime, can’t forget a few of my favorites from “Observer Effect” – the bridge scene….


    T’Pol had regained some of her control with the curing of the Pa’nars, but she still struggled with her emotions as she realized time was running out
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    She closes her eyes briefly, and
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    continues to look at the viewscreen with Archer in the foreground and Trip lying near death in the background
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    "Captain...if Commander Tucker becomes conscious...."
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    And Archer gives her a look (of understanding?) and says he’ll let her know right away.
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    Logically, at this point, T’Pol probably knows that Trip isn’t going to regain consciousness, but she asks to be notified anyway…. Very nicely done.
     
  7. kalysto

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    I really could not agree with you more.
     
  8. kalysto

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    Was wondering if anyone else caught the little look Trip sent T'Pol's way in Horizon.

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    I actually had to rewind when I watched the other day, but he is more than a little interested in what Archer is up to methinks ! ;)
     
  9. Reanok

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    I like Horizon and The teasing & banter between Trip & T'Pol and the misunderstanding of T'Pol when she mentioned reading the book instead of going to see the movie. She seems to be enjoying the movie when she turns around and talks to Phlox and Trip about Stoping the movie to continue their conversation of reanimating the dead.A fun scene at the captain's table the next day when T'Pol says Frakenstein's monster was misunderstood. I always wondered if T'Pol went to the other Frankenstein movies and saw them with Trip.I wish we'd been able to see that. And yes Trip ceratainly watching them closely. ;) :lol: :D
     
  10. pookha

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    tpol is so upset about how things are not working out in that movie scene she just clutches at the popcorn ..
    as if to give her something to do..
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    possibly to keep from hitting both jon and trip
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  11. tothebridge

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    Yeah, I noticed that, too. :lol: Poor Trip, I don't think he was very happy at this point. The movie night invite hadn't worked out and to top it off, T'Pol had just chastised Phlox for talking during the movie.

    Too bad they had that misunderstanding earlier about the "book club." T'Pol's expression when Trip gets offended and walks away is pretty funny -- like she's wondering how it all went so wrong so quickly. :lol:
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    Actually, I think "Horizon" is one of a few episodes in season 2 that had some significant non-work related interaction between Trip and T'Pol. The writers also picked up on the age teasing again in "The Cogenitor." So later in the season it did seem they were starting to pick up again on some of the T/T elements in a more proactive way.



    OK, here're a few select T/T caps from certain episodes of last week's SciFi block -- The Aenar, Affliction, Divergence -- a lot of tension and angst between T/T at this point.

    Trip wonders if T'Pol has ever been in a situation where death seemed certain and what her thoughts were at the time.
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    T'Pol gives him a very logical, "non-emotional" answer.
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    Later, there is tension between the two because of disagreement over whether T'Pol should test the telepresence unit.
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    T'Pol comes to visit Trip as he is packing to leave for Columbia. Not one of my favorite scenes, but I do like this cap, with Trip looking outward, T'Pol behind him, and Columbia's reflection in the glass.
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    T'Pol wants to know if Trip is leaving because of her.
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    Trip says that not everything in his life revolves around T'Pol. Ouch! :( So, they don't part on the best of terms.
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    T'Pol seems to have that "deer in the headlights" look as she realizes that some of her romantic thoughts about Commander Tucker might've been passed on to Hoshi during the meld. (I've wondered if Hoshi was fishing for information because she suspected the thoughts were really T'Pol's or if Hoshi just thought the meld had somehow scrambled her own thoughts.)
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    As Trip is spacewalking between Columbia and ENT, T'Pol is monitoring the situation and realizes that the warp field is becoming unstable.
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    Trip and T'Pol work together to purge the subroutines and restart the engines.
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    T'Pol accompanies Trip as he heads back to Columbia. Still a lot of tension between them.
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    And tension still remains as Archer announces that Trip will be staying for awhile to assist with repairs.
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    Things take a turn for the better, however, with "Bound." More later....
     
  12. vulcangrrl

    vulcangrrl Ensign Newbie

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    I just want to say hi to everyone. I'm new, but am a long time lover of Trip/T'Pol. Their love is liek whoa.
     
  13. pookha

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    welcome to our little hole in the wall thread vulcangirrl..

    ps would people like to have caps of tnt to have caption fun with.
     
  14. vulcangrrl

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    Thank you pookha!

    I would love to see some pictures of them. Who doesn't wanna have fun with their loveliness! LOL
     
  15. Reanok

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    Hello Vulcan Grrl and welcome. Yes Pookha could you please post more Tnt pictures to caption since part of the gang is on vacation we can have our own fun with your pictures contest. :) :thumbsup: :cool:
     
  16. Snapper

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    Nice caps tothebridge, thanks. But she does seem to be listening at one point. Maybe she was afraid to say anything, Trip had made the Romeo and Juliet comment, and I think she thought it was definitely all over, IMO.
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    Some of my fave TnT scenes include the Harbinger neuropressure scene (of course!), and this one, from the same epi. I have more somewhere....*off to pillage hard-drive....*
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    And hello and welcome vulcangrrl!
     
  17. vulcangrrl

    vulcangrrl Ensign Newbie

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    Thanks for the warm welcome, guys! :)

    omg, look at them together! Harbinger was so HOT! :devil: :D ;)
     
  18. tennisgirl

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    Welcome to the thread, vulcangrrl! Always nice to meet a fellow TnT fan. So, you like Harbinger... can't blame you. How about Similitude?
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  19. pookha

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    unlike the other caps ment for thoughtful appreciation :)
    these are pretty playthings..

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  20. vulcangrrl

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    Thanks, Tennisgirl! Similitude was heartbreaking. :( But it was nice to see Sim's which was really Trip's feelings expressed for T'Pol. And T'Pol was there to comfort him. True love! :D
     
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