Trip Asking for Prime Rib

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Enterprise' started by The Master of Tarquin Hill, Oct 30, 2013.

  1. Gov Kodos

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  2. Hazel

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    Nevermind, got it.
     
  3. Hazel

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    Here's a another take/clarification on the coverage of the BBC story:http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...d-about-them-theyre-shockingly-sophisticated/
    As far as I gather, plants experiencing pain would be counter-productive evolution-wise. Their capability to move away from pain is extremely limited, they have no central nervous system, and much of the time their propagation depends on another animal eating them/spreading their seed (dirty!)
    But hey, it's an interesting topic, and we'll find out more I'm sure.
     
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    If we found out plants were sentient and I was a vegan I would just eat only the animals that I truly hated, like sharks. I hate those mother fuckers, also crocodiles, and if I had to make an ethical choice on a level playing field where all were equal I would just go with my pet hatreds. Sharks or carrots, the choice would be easy if carrots were all sentient and orange and growing without hurting anyone. Why not eat the eaters? Instead of the innocent?
     
  5. scotpens

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    Now I'm hungry for some Wiener schnitzel. ;)
     
  6. T'Girl

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    You and I need to spend time together.



    :)
     
  7. Saganistheman

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    Sho'nuff anytime!:beer:
     
  8. JarodRussell

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    That's what I always wonder about. Do plants INTEND to get their seeds spread by the help of other organisms or is that accidental?

    Intention would require an evolutionary mechanism that isn't agreed upon in the scientific community: the ability of an organism to actively mutate its DNA before passing it to the next generation. Like “oh my gosh, this heat is killing me, my children need less fur.“ and - tada - flipped is one of the switches in the code.
     
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    Well, Picard does say in Sins of the Father that replicated Caviar isn't as good as the real thing, and Paris complains in Caretaker that the replicators aboard Voyager can't get Tomato Soup right.
     
  10. T'Girl

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    Deanna prefers real chocolates over the ship's replicated chocolate.


    :)
     
  11. Mister Spock

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    I always figured that the big difference was that replicated food contains none of the small flourishes, differences and imperfections that real food might contain.
     
  12. Fruitcake

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    Palates are adaptive, I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't notice or care. Plus you could program it pretty specifically if you had a replicator fitted out for that.

    Chocolate, dark.

    Specify percentage.

    83.7%

    Specify conching level.

    etc..

    You would have to know just as much about the food you wanted and how it actually is prepared in real life to get it as specific as you wanted. You could add the flourishes by requesting some randomness too, let's say each piece in the block of chocolate varied by up to 8% of your specifications. I am sure there are many replicator foodies who love the numbers crunching and share recipes.

    You can make home made ketchup which is delicious and still have people prefer store bought, sugar and salt laden ketchup. People will be used to getting exactly what they want from the replicator and resist the flourishes and differences. I think a lot of the bitching about Neelix's cooking was that people had lost control, they had to take the stew in front of them and not adjust every aspect of it to their own tastes.
     
  13. Gov Kodos

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    I assumed Neelix was a gourmet chef for someone with a Talaxian tongue. If their taste reception is broader than humans, and even registers flavors we do at different levels it could be a right pain for him to work out what humans like. To the Talaxian tongue leola root may really be their equivalent of chocolate and truffles.
     
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    The leola root bitching was stupid. Why did he put leola root in everything? Because that is what they had. Sure everyone would rather have had potatoes but they didn't have potatoes. They complained about his use of the raw materials available, which was his job! I really do think they are all spoiled and in shock that day after day they can't control what they eat to the degree replicators allow.
     
  15. Gov Kodos

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    It's a good in-universe explanation.
     
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    My take is that regardless if you request pork or chicken or beef, what the replicator delivers is all basically the same thing, a piece of textured protein with a favoring added. It isn't a piece of animal tissue, it's a generic facsimile.

    If you did know ahead of time what you were eating, you might not be able to tell just by eating it.

    :)
     
  17. Fruitcake

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    I'd be surprised if it sucked that much.
     
  18. Gov Kodos

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    That makes me think of Spam, or an Oscar Meyer hotdog.
     
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    This is the replicator! Your baloney no longer has a first name!
     
  20. Gov Kodos

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    :rofl: