TP: Seize the Fire by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Thrawn, Nov 21, 2010.

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Rate Seize The Fire.

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  1. Julio Angel Ortiz

    Julio Angel Ortiz Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Re: Typhon Pact: Seize The Fire review thread

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  2. timothy

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    Re: Typhon Pact: Seize The Fire review thread

    thanks for that.
     
  3. Zorkel567

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    Re: Typhon Pact: Seize The Fire review thread

    Does anyone know the chronological order of the Typhon Pact series? I'm working on a Trek literature timeline and would like to know since I'm almost finished with the timeline.

    Also, has it been revealed where the Typhon Pact e-book novella, The Struggle Within, takes place yet?
    Thanks.
     
  4. Christopher

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    Re: Typhon Pact: Seize The Fire review thread

    Rough Beasts of Empire: Feb-Mar 2381; Oct '81-Feb '82

    Zero Sum Game: May '82; Aug '82

    Seize the Fire: Aug '82 (going by author's own statements, though some references in the text are inconsistent)

    Paths of Disharmony: Sep-Oct '82 (going by the stated age of Picard's son, though other references are inconsistent)

    The Struggle Within: Nov-Dec '82
     
  5. timothy

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    Re: Typhon Pact: Seize The Fire review thread

    can't wait for the struggle within.
     
  6. JD

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    I just started reading this a few days ago, and while I haven't found it utterly unreadable I've already got some issue with it after only 20something pages. First of all I'm just not a fan of Michael A. Martin's writing style. He just seems to overwrite everything. For instance less than 2 pages after he first introduces Vale and explains who she he goes through it all again when she chimes in on a conversation. All I could think as I read it was "Yeah, we already know, you just told us that".
    Then there's the fact that Riker doesn't trust a scan result because it came from White-Blue and Torvig. So if he doesn't trust White-Blue why did he let him stay aboard the ship. And poor Torvig, after everything the little guy's has done his crew mates still don't like him.
     
  7. Relayer1

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    I found it rather tedious too.

    I didn't like Zero Sum Game much either, but the rest of the Typhon Pact books range between pretty damned good to excellent !
     
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  8. JD

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    I loved ZSG and RBoE, and really enjoyed PoD, so I was hoping maybe I would disagree with the majority and actually like StF, but so far it's not looking likely.
    So far I'm getting a George Lucas vibe of off MAM. Good ideas, bad execution.
     
  9. Enterprise1981

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    I hear you. Like I said near the beginning of this thread, another Mike Martin novel is just on my shelf collecting dust. Two years, the same can be said of StF. It feels like just another Titan novel, and I don't follow that novel series as regularly as the TNG-R and TP books.
     
  10. JD

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    Yeah, I've had both this and the first Romulan War book sitting on my shelf/nook since they were published, but at this point I'm not even sure if I'm going to finish StF, or read any BtRW.
     
  11. Relayer1

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    I enjoyed the Romulan War books - I just didn't like Seize The Fire...
     
  12. tomswift2002

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    I remember reading Seize The Fire when it first came out --- it was a clunker.

    And then this past year I read Martin's new Titan novel --- sorry the name's escaping me --- and I remember that he made some mentions of events from this novel and it was like "what is he talking about", since the events didn't even jump out at me.

    Suffice it to say, both of Martin's Titan novels are pretty forgettable.
     
  13. lvsxy808

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    That seems to be the general consensus, yes.

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  14. DS9forever

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    Given that Enterprise novels have passed to another author, will the same happen with Titan? Or will it go the way of Vanguard?
     
  15. j3067

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    I am currently struggling through 'Fallen Gods'. So far I think it is an improvement over 'Seize the Fire', but I'm not exactly loving it.

    I would very much like to read a Titan novel written solo by Andy Mangels. I would also be interested in reading moreTitan novels by James Swallow...'Synthesis' is probably my single favorite stand alone in that series.
     
  16. JD

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    I would be up for that, Synthesis was great.
     
  17. Anika Hanson

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    I'm reading it now, so far I'm 70 % in and rather enjoying it. Interesting stuff about the Gorn, an under developed race imo.
     
  18. King Daniel Beyond

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    I'm 100 pages in and I'm enjoying it too.
     
  19. Mage

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    I re-read Syntesis a while back, and it really was amazing. The only other Titan-novel that jumped out for me like that was Orion's Hounds, I grade them equeally. I just finished a re-read of Cathedral, a joint novel between Martin and Mangels. It's so much better then Martin's solo work, that I can't help but think that Mangels was the true writer of that duo. I like the idea's Martin has, but he just can't seem to get them to paper properly.
     
  20. JD

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    ^That was exactly what I said about Martin.