TOS Voice-Over Actor?

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by cblmc1296, Jul 15, 2011.

  1. Esteban

    Esteban Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2005
    Location:
    Hairclub for Men
    ^^^
    Nice catch, but isn't that transporter chief's voice the guy who did the Mission:Impossible tape voice?
     
  2. scotpens

    scotpens Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2009
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    ^^ For years, I thought Bartell LaRue did the voice on the Mission: Impossible tapes, but it turns out it was a voice actor named Robert Johnson. He was frequently heard as the voice of a creature or alien on the original Outer Limits series.
     
  3. Gary7

    Gary7 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2007
    Location:
    Near Manhattan ··· in an alternate reality
    Nice catch on that, Scotpens. Yeah, playing the voice of the Guardian of Forever in my head followed by the announcer in "Bread and Circuses" comes to a complete match for Bartell LaRue. Also, as the lead Provider in "Gamesters of Triskelion." Heh, I feel kind of silly that I never made the connection.

    Here's what Memory Alpha shows:
    • "The Squire of Gothos" as Trelane's father (voice). This role had been credited for decades to James Doohan, but it is actually LaRue's voice, as confirmed by Doohan in Starlog Magazine in 1988
    • "The City on the Edge of Forever" as the Guardian of Forever (voice)
    • "Bread and Circuses" as an announcer (voice and on-screen)
    • "The Gamesters of Triskelion" as Provider 1 (voice, uncredited)
    • "Patterns of Force" as an Ekosian newscaster (voice and on-screen)
    • "The Savage Curtain" as Yarnek

    About Doohan being mistakened for Trelane's father, I can understand it... but what I'd originally thought to be Bartell LaRue was James Doohan as the announcer at Mission Control in "Assignment: Earth".


    I really like how James Doohan did so many voices for TOS. His Scottish accent for Scotty was so realistic, it's easy to believe that this was his true accent and that he didn't have any others. There's something about his voice articulation as M5 that hints it was Doohan, but I'd never have guessed it for the others.

    Funny thing about Vic Perrin... he was the Control Voice in "The Outer Limits". He speaks a bit faster than he did on Star Trek, but you can hear the timber of his voice. He was also the voice for Nomad. Again, it sounds like he changed his vocalizations just a little from what he did as Tharn, more sterile and thus robotic in quality. He definitely did not do Balok, though.
     
  4. ToddPence

    ToddPence Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Location:
    Fairfax, VA
    I've read that Walker Edmiston overdubbed some of actor Harry Townes' lines in "The Return of the Archons." This might have been due to Townes' pronounced southern drawl. Perhaps the producers felt that an inhabitant of Landru's planet shouldn't sound like a good ole' boy. I don't believe Edmiston was ever credited on-screen for his work on TOS.
     
  5. scotpens

    scotpens Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2009
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Listen to Billy Connolly or Craig Ferguson if you want to know what a real Scottish accent sounds like. Whatever accent Jimmy Doohan was doing, it sure as hell wasn't Scottish.

    But then, I've never heard a Russian speak English the way Walter Koenig did when he played Chekov. "Keptin, the alien wessel just wanished!" WTF?
     
  6. Silvercrest

    Silvercrest Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2003
    And he was Enik in the original Land of the Lost. Although I don't know if he was voiced over, or if that was actually him in the suit.
     
  7. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    Bob Johnson (the M:I tape voice) did sound a lot like Bart LaRue, and several TOS voices traditionally credited to LaRue were actually Johnson, according to Memory Alpha. It credits him with the following:


    That wouldn't have been Harry Townes (Reger), but Lev Mailer aka Ralph Maurer (Bilar), the bowler-hatted fellow who first greeted the landing party on their arrival. Bilar's voice was a nasal tenor like Edmiston's, totally unlike Townes/Reger's fuller baritone. Also, his voice was rather blatantly dubbed, as were all the voices in the scenes shot outside on the backlot -- a standard practice in Hollywood since outdoor conditions, wind, aircraft noise, etc. can make it difficult to get a clean voice track. Probably they used Edmiston for the looping session because Bilar had no indoor scenes. Since every one of his lines had to be dubbed over anyway, there was no need to use the actor's real voice, and it was probably more convenient just to give those lines to Edmiston (perhaps in the same recording session as his lines in another episode) rather than hire Mailer to come in and do it.
     
  8. Noname Given

    Noname Given Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 22, 2001
    Location:
    None Given
    Are you sure? I could have sworn the voice of "Balok" was done by Ted Cassidy (who also played the andriod "Rok" in What Are Little Girks Made Of and of course is famous for playing the butler "Lurch" in The Addams Family TV series.)
     
  9. Gary7

    Gary7 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2007
    Location:
    Near Manhattan ··· in an alternate reality
    I did learn later that it isn't very accurate... but it sounds very natural and effortless, like it's his own accent. That's the impression he made on me, anyway. ;)
     
  10. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    The voice of the fake, scary Balok featured in most of the episode was Ted Cassidy, yes, unmistakably. But the voice of the real childlike Balok seen at the end of the episode was Edmiston (dubbing over Clint Howard).
     
  11. cblmc1296

    cblmc1296 Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2011
    Location:
    NNJ
    Jimmy Doohan actually talked about that quite frequently. It was his take on what a Scotsman might sound like 300 years in the future. He discussed it at some length with Tom Snyder on the Tomorrow Show in a 1976 appearance that also featured Koenig and De Kelley
     
  12. inflatabledalek

    inflatabledalek Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2011
    I don't know, Ferguson sounds very hybridised to me, he's clearly lived in the States for years and its rubbed off on his voice, resulting in a slightly odd accent that I'd say sounds less convincingly Scottish than Doohan.

    But then, real life accents often are much more bizarre than anything you'd ever hear in films or telly.
     
  13. Noname Given

    Noname Given Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 22, 2001
    Location:
    None Given
    Doh - my bad - I see where my confision came from (and it's my fovorite Star Trek episode too:eek:)
     
  14. Maurice

    Maurice Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2005
    Location:
    Walking distance from Starfleet HQ
    Depends on "best known" to whom. Perrin was a regular guest star on the long-running Gunsmoke radio show (he also was a writer on maybe five episodes).
     
  15. cblmc1296

    cblmc1296 Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2011
    Location:
    NNJ
    Hence my use of the qualifying term "probably". In actual fact, he may be "best known" - as in having his voice heard by the broadest group of people - for the recorded voice instructions in AEDs.
     
  16. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

    Happy Xmas (War Is Over) Fleet Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2001
    Location:
    If you want it
    And Martin Luther King, jr personally talked Nichols into staying on Star Trek. :lol:
     
  17. Jonas Grumby

    Jonas Grumby Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2002
    Location:
    Somewhere in the South Pacific
    ^ One wonders if Nichols ever had the same mischievous twinkle in her eye while telling her MLK stories that Doohan had when talking about his 300-year-old Scottish accent. (She didn't on the versions I saw her tell.) ;)
     
  18. Captain Robert April

    Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Admiral

    Doohan also often said that if he did a truly authentic Scottish accent, you wouldn't have understood a bloody word Scotty said (much like the bloke from Aberdeen who he based the accent on in the first place). He toned it down out of necessity.

    As for Craig Ferguson, he often jokes about how his family back in Scotland accuse him of having lost his accent.

    Back to Edminston, his imdb.com page only lists Provider #2 and the Vulcan Space Central voice.
     
  19. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

    Happy Xmas (War Is Over) Fleet Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2001
    Location:
    If you want it
    Craig's other Scots gag is saying that the accent Doohan did (and others attempting a Scots accent) sounds like a Pakistani.

    I've noticed Craig's accent gets thicker when he talks to other Scots, like Karen Gillan.
     
  20. Captain Robert April

    Captain Robert April Vice Admiral Admiral

    Or Billy Connolly, or Shirley Manson (although when she's on, it gets fun, because of the Glasgow/Edinburgh rivalry that inevitably creeps in). :devil:

    Y'know, upon further reflection, Doohan's "Scotty" accent seems to be somewhere between Scottish and Welsh...so maybe Futurama wasn't so far off, after all with the introduction of Welshie...