TOS: No Time Like the Past Review Thread (Spoilers!)

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  1. Markonian

    Markonian Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    We know the Inventor did it, but I don't exactly know how.
     
  2. datalogan

    datalogan Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Looks like there's a typo. In the last scene with Bergstrom, 2nd-to-last scene in the book, page 383 in my copy, it looks like Bergstrom is accidentally refered to in the text as "Jadello", who was a different character in the book.
     
  3. Greg Cox

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    Oops!
     
  4. Sto-Vo-Kory

    Sto-Vo-Kory Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I finished a week ago but haven't found the time to comment until now.

    As I've come to expect, this was another fun TOS novel from Mr. Cox. Nothing too heavy or angst-ridden; a classic adventure story that made for an enjoyable reading experience.

    The quest through the past of former TOS episodes was great stuff. I liked the episodic structure of this novel. It reminded me of a classic Doctor Who serial and I imagined the story unfolding in half-hour increments as if the Star Trek show had adopted that format for just this arc.

    Well done, Greg. Looking forward to Foul Deeds in just short while.
     
  5. Greg Cox

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    Thanks! For the record, I fired off some minor revisions to Foul Deeds just the other day, in response to a few queries from the copyeditor. Which means the book is almost done.

    The final step, which is a few weeks down the road, is to proofread the page proofs one last time . . . .

    And to wait impatiently for a glimpse of the cover art, of course! :)
     
  6. Enterprise1701

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    Greg, did you notice that you wrote "Klingon warbirds" in this novel?
     
  7. Christopher

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    That's what they were called in the 2009 movie. If the term was used in that timeline, it could've been used in the Prime timeline as well, I suppose.
     
  8. King Daniel Beyond

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    In Dave Stern's Children of Kings, it's touched on that Klingon Warbirds are bigger and more heavily armed Klingon Battlecruisers (which is exactly what they looked like in ST'09)

    They were first mentioned in ENT: "Broken Bow"
     
  9. Greg Cox

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    Oops! Maybe I have seen the new movies too many times! :)

    To be honest, that's something I always need to look up. I can never remember what the difference is between a "battle cruiser" or a "bird of prey" or whatever. I'm not really into the hardware or ship designs.

    But, yes, I obviously forgot to consult my Star Trek Encyclopedia that time.
     
  10. Enterprise1701

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    Except that as many fans noted and the producers admitted that it was an error.
    True. I, though, view the usage in Star Trek 2009 as improper Federation slang because the prime reality D7 class is repeatedly referred to as a battle cruiser and appears to be the Klingon military's mainstay in the mid 23rd century.

    Haha.
     
  11. King Daniel Beyond

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    Eh, whether it started off as an error or not, I think it's been sufficiently integrated into Trek continuity that it's an acceptable name.

    I think it's cool when novels draw on the Trek mythology rather than stick to one little corner of it. The TOS Enterprise facing down one of those gunned-to-the-teeth Warbirds from ST'09? Cool. Now let's have some FASA ship types show up! I'd love to read about an appearance of the infamous "one wing" Klingon destroyer.
     
  12. Enterprise1701

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    ^It seems reminiscent of the Breen warship.
     
  13. CaffeineAddict

    CaffeineAddict Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Finished this book this morning, and enjoyed it a lot. It left me wondering about Klingon Cloaking devices, though - when did the federation find out the Klingons had cloaking technology? I know they were supposed to have acquired it in during their alliance with the Romulans, about the same time the Romulans started using the D7s in The Enterprise Incident, but I don't recall seeing the Klingons with cloaking technology until Star Trek III.
    Klingon cloaking technology doesn't seem like a surprise to anyone in the novel, though - has it been established anywhere when the federation found out the Klingons had the devices?
     
  14. Markonian

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    The Klingons have cloaking devices no later than 2151, as per ENT.
     
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    CaffeineAddict Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    In Enterprise? I don't recall that...which episode do they have cloaking devices?
     
  17. Deranged Nasat

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    Maybe some Head of House discovered that his family symbol in centuries past was a one-winged bird? And so he decided that his shipyards were going to make him a one-winged destroyer in honour of his ancestors, and after a few rounds of executions and temper tantrums the workers gave in and built him one? :p
     
  18. King Daniel Beyond

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    ^I put it down to a Klingon budget crisis. Why build one D-7 battlecruiser when you can build almost two of those lopsided beauties?
    Although not explicitly stated, in "Unexpected", the Klingons acquire technology from the Xyrilians who had cloaking ability.

    Alternately, Children of Kings has them testing cloaks in Pike's time.
     
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