Tom Paris - awesome or vastly underused?

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  1. exodus

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    Watch "The Great Santini" and you'll understand why it's hard having a military minded father with a personality like Tom's.
     
  2. Guy Gardener

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    But Tom's ideal life was just to be in a different military, y'know with boats.
     
  3. Collingwood Nick

    Collingwood Nick Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Get off his back!! O'Brien is a champ, my sort of bloke. Like Paris. It's a shame that Star Trek isn't real, we could have formed a rat pack and gotten into all sorts of hijinks.

    Females :rolleyes: Just dont get it
     
  4. Guy Gardener

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    Kieko had a full time job too.

    Two once she started teaching.

    Then she had twice as many children.

    Then who took over the school after she escaped to Bajor?

    Point is, there's an invisible baby sitter that we never saw... unless there's a holocloset they lock the children inside when they're at work?

    And what about the Big.Love years when Kira was living as an O'Brien?

    "Sigh"

    Oh what about when Kieko was a 9 year old for a couple days?

    molly wanted nothing to do with her.

    And neither did Miles pants.

    Which annoyed her because she was the same person on the inside which is where it really counts...

    SEE!

    Women ARE crazy!
     
  5. exodus

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    The Deadbeat Club, you mean. :lol:
     
  6. Lord Manitou

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    It took some character to get B'Elanna interested in the male genre. Tom had to try repeatedly to keep their relation. He was so strong with his beliefs that they came before serving Starfleet. They kept Harry on the par with women and B'Elanna isn't a lesbian. It was Capt Janeway who saved him and as the seasons advance her trust becomes more fully bonded in him.
    Sorry- I can't get out of Explorer 7.
     
  7. LuckyCharms

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    I like the character of Tom Paris and thought he faired much better than poor Harry or Chakotay. Other than the lizard babies he had some good episodes and good development over the course of the series.
     
  8. Kelthaz

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    Neither. He was annoying and overused. This is a pretty standard criticism for Voyager, but for being the "bad boy" Tom was way too bland. Ooh, he submitted a report with poor grammar? What a rebel!
     
  9. The Overlord

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    Tom was an okay character. He was kinda underdeveloped compared to some of the great characters on other Star Trek shows, but on Voyager he was more interesting then the likes of Harry Kim, Neelix and Chakotay. However it did seem kinda silly that he was put in charge of so much stuff at once. He must have insane time management skills.
     
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    I'm afraid Tom was extremely annoying to me and I should imagine to any crew under a similar situation with such a personality. People like that usually dont last it and either jump out or get focibly removed or worse - oh walk the plank pleeeeeaaaase Tom. He was the only thing that really got my goat about Voyager other then Harry's romantic endeavours that is.
     
  11. exodus

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    Well, that was the whole point behind the character and why him and his father didn't get along. Besides Tuvok & Harry, the crew of Voyager could never serve on any ship within the AQ under the watchful eye of Starfleet because they were misfits with serious personality flaws.
     
  12. Guy Gardener

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    And what was his thermonuclear final answer to his daddy question?

    Setting Owen up with B'Elanna's mum Miral so that Toms daughter would become his niece, and when Owen screams his new brides name out in ecstasy, it's also his granddaughters name...

    Can of worms.
     
  13. heath_96

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    I think Tom was perfectly used! He had some good episodes with him at the centre, but also was a flexible character (being the nurse etc.) He didn't always seem to be the focus of the show, but had his moments!

    He wasn't annoying, but he had a quirky persona. I loved the way he was into 20th century Earth (especially all the Holodeck stuff and the random quotes). Also, I loved the way he was like a big brother to Harry, and was really good with children :)

    His relationship with B'Elanna was good, and they are my favourite Trek couple. They both had troubled childhoods, so this helped them be able to comfort each other.
     
  14. TexasTrekkie

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    I thought they did an ok job with his character....he and Torres were in an on-screen relationship for 4 years and I felt still managed to be good stand-alone characters. A lot of the trek relationships annoy me because one they get together the writers don't really know what to do with them so someone either dies, they break up, or they have tons of relationship drama like the Obriens. But in the spirit of full disclosure...I am a P/Ter.
     
  15. JanewayRulz!

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    Actually, they did make him 1st Officer in "Unimatrix 1-2".

    But I agree... I don't want him to usurp Chakotay's role EVERY episode. ;)
     
  16. Guy Gardener

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    First Officer? It's a frakking miracle he didn't make it to Captain in that episode.

    He was also the first officer in Resolutions, but Kes acted more like she was the First Officer, since it was the XO's job to tell harry to Shut the Frakk up about his suicide kick to offer his kidneys to the Vidiian for the Wiff of chance that Kathryn will continue to underappreciate him..
     
  17. Gov Kodos

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    Tom was awesome. The video does show up Tom's idea of what he'd like to be until being with B'Lanna makes him grow up. [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xGSHOvpM_o[/yt]
     
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    Kes was the one who sold Tuvok on Kim's idea, or at least gave him a more comfortable out. But this episode doesn't take Tom seriously at all as a leader, which seems right to me. Most people love Paris it seems but he always came across to me as fundamentally weak.
     
  19. BruntFCA

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    Which episode was that with Tom, Tuvok, and B'Elanna fighting on the resort program?
     
  20. Gov Kodos

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    That fight with the hula girls on the holodeck would be season 3, Alter Ego, as I recall.
     

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