1. HaplessCrewman

    HaplessCrewman Commander Red Shirt

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    I know some want George Takei to just give it a rest, so let me put it to our humble community here. Should I watch this documentary on the man?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUkA3RvwcWw

    I know recently Takei got into a little controversy (again) when he re-tweeted a photograph of a woman struggling out of a wheelchair to fetch a bottle of liquor. He later apologized.

    Click on the link to see the pic.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...rn_internet_viral_images_demean_disabled.html

    What say you, BBSers?
     
  2. Harvey

    Harvey Admiral Admiral

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    Why not? The reviews have been decent, and Takei has led an intersting life.
     
  3. Green Shirt

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  4. Timewalker

    Timewalker Cat-lovin', Star Trekkin' Time Lady Premium Member

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    I read his autobiography and found it very interesting, so why not see the documentary?
     
  5. TREK_GOD_1

    TREK_GOD_1 Commodore Commodore

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    x1000.

    He's a walking sideshow of shame, self-promotion and idiotic behavior---all to scream for attention he feels he deserved 50 years ago.

    The sad part is that he's the only guy buying into that fantasy.
     
  6. Melakon

    Melakon Admiral Admiral

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    The most important moments in George's life are living in an American concentration camp, being on Star Trek, and getting married.
     
  7. Foxhot

    Foxhot Commodore Commodore

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    Shatner was hired for exactly ten minutes for Takei's commentary as it was all he could spare. Reports indicate after appearing with Takei for close to 100 hours of episodes and films, he claims they've had minimal contact and barely knows him from the stuntmen and understudies. Total shat, I say.
     
  8. Maurice

    Maurice Vice Admiral Admiral

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    It's not surprising that Shatner hardly knows the man. I've worked film sets, and the actors don't always pal around between takes. Routinely they flee to their dressing rooms or trailers to get some privacy or work on their lines for the next scenes or take care of personal business. There are plenty of people I worked with on teams for YEARS whom I don't really know personally. Sometimes being at work is just being at work.

    Not saying Shatner's not an arse. A friend who worked as his assistant for a few days assured me of that.
     
  9. TREK_GOD_1

    TREK_GOD_1 Commodore Commodore

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    Takei's Shatner whining makes him seem like he was in the same position of early 1970s TOS fans, who bought into various publications going on and on about the "Star Trek family" myth, and somehow expected myth to be reality.
     
  10. Last Redshirt

    Last Redshirt Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    As much as I like Takei and his acting abilities, as well as the message he's trying to put out, it all seems a bit like he's grasping for attention. I mean, if Shatner did a documentary movie about him, I think a lot of people would be calling him an attention whore.
     
  11. Timewalker

    Timewalker Cat-lovin', Star Trekkin' Time Lady Premium Member

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    With all the "Star Trek Memories" books, goofy commercials, talk-show appearances, videos, etc. that Shatner's done over the last several decades, it's Takei you're denigrating as an attention-seeker?
     
  12. EnriqueH

    EnriqueH Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I've met Takei twice: once at a convention in 1990, and once in 1994 when he was signing his autobiography, which I enjoyed immensely. (By the way, he was a total gentleman both times. I loved him. Great guy.)

    I remember wondering about his love life, because there was no mention of girlfriends, boyfriends or anything romantic.

    I loved him, really nice guy.

    I say let him enjoy himself. Ever since he came out of the closet, he seems to be enjoying all the newfound attention. Good for him!

    I just don't like the repeated Shatner bashing, but maybe that's because the Shat has been a lifelong idol of mine.
     
  13. IreneAdler

    IreneAdler Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I think he brings attention to himself because there are many people in parts of the world that don't personally know any gay people. It's easy for bigoted people to say that they hate a group that's different from them when they don't have any friends or family members in that group. He humanizes two important minorities: gay men, Asian actors.

    Does he post things that offend some people? Yes. But nowadays everyone seems to be looking for a reason to be offended, and unlike a lot of people, he seems apologetic when he realizes he's done wrong.
     
  14. TREK_GOD_1

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    Shatner was/is in demand--he (unlike Takei) has an audience crossing several generations. There would be no T.J. Hooker, Priceline, Boston Legal or the other innumerable TV spots, guest starring roles, etc., if the demand did not exist.

    On the other hand, Takei begs for an audience, and will perform any manner of butthole stunts / personal attacks to get attention.
     
  15. EnriqueH

    EnriqueH Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Eh, whatever he's doing seems to be working for him.

    The TOS cast isn't getting any younger, so I'm happy to enjoy seeing them in the spotlight for as long as I can.

    These guys are ALL older than Roddenberry when Roddenberry died...so more power to him.
     
  16. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    I don't have an opinion on the documentary one way or the other because I don't know anything about it. If if it sounds interesting to you or if you think you might learn something by watching, then go ahead. If not, then you don't have to.

    Not sure why you bring this up in a thread ostensibly asking whether or not you should watch a documentary about George Takei. George posted it, George got called on it, George eventually apologized, but in this thread it's pretty much a non sequitur, no?

    About which - the documentary or the meme kerfuffle?
     
  17. Melakon

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    Apparently George is in Time Magazine right now. There's an article about him on their website, but currently only available to subscribers.
     
  18. Timewalker

    Timewalker Cat-lovin', Star Trekkin' Time Lady Premium Member

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    So what if Shatner did some TV series? I watched T.J. Hooker and Boston Legal. You seem to be saying that Shatner is entitled to be attention-seeking, but Takei isn't.

    I've read Takei's autobiography and found it interesting. I'm curious about this documentary and will watch it if it becomes available in a format I can access.
     
  19. Last Redshirt

    Last Redshirt Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I'm not saying Shatner isn't an attention-seeker. I'm saying that it's just as bad if Takei does it.

    As I said, I like Takei, and I support what he's trying to do. It doesn't make it any less 'grasping for attention,' even if it is a secondary goal.
     
  20. Foxhot

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    No Priceline? Oh, GOD. Having no HOOKER's a mixed blessing. Best part of that prospect is: no HOOKER, no horrifying Adrian Zmed ''dancing'' scene in the pilot. :borg: