Spoilers TNG: The Light Fantastic by Jeffrey Lang Review Thread

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Sho, Jun 15, 2014.

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Rate The Light Fantastic.

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  1. Kilana2

    Kilana2 Commodore Commodore

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    As big Data Fan I really look forward to reading the German translation, which is currently planned for April 2016. Of course Cross Cult could still change that. At least they have already a German title: Das Licht der Fantasie (?????? :) ????)
     
  2. Ronald Held

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    I can take or leave Albert or Moriarty. Not certain about Data 2.0; what now drives him now that Lal is resurrected and fully functional?
     
  3. KimMH

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    I really enjoyed this book, it was like seeing so many old friends again. This felt joyous, in spite of the subject at hand. Sure and you can’t go home again; but with friends like these, home is wherever you are together.

    I also enjoyed meeting a couple new ones; I hope to read more of Shakti in the future. Her flirtation with Albert Lee was funny and endearing, and her programming ensures she is up to any challenge.

    I found Data’s admission he might be working for her funny, too.

    I started with Immortal Coil (new to me!) and then read the Cold Equations trilogy and then rounded it out with this.

    The compression was satisfying, like experiencing the events in real time.

    Geordi’s discomfort at his role as moral compass was believable and relatable. Are you really “helping” your best friend if you’re helping them do something you think is wrong?

    The Countess is an interesting foil to that situation, as she is the one who lets Moriarity know she will not let him harm Lal. I enjoyed seeing her fleshed out and not just a damsel in distress. M’s actions don’t even seem the work of a criminal mastermind so much as a terrified, bereaved father.

    I can even forgive Data his actions considering his fears for Lal’s safety and how new he is to his emotions. His journey into grey areas will be interesting food for thought, I hope to see that in book form too!

    I agree that his personal development at this time is best explored outside of Starfleet. He will have greater freedom to work with his friends in the event of ever-looming catastrophes from the outside.

    I’ve read plenty of Trek-lit where the galaxy was at stake, or even our corner of it. I am looking for The Fall series to sober me up about What It’s All About.

    These relationship/development pieces though, are for me WHY it even matters.
     
  4. Kilana2

    Kilana2 Commodore Commodore

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    Also the German translation for this: Das Licht der Fantasie. According to Cross Cult a quote form a poem by John Milton, or the translation therof.

    One year to go for this in the German version. It is planned for April 2016.
     
  5. Christopher

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  6. Enterprise1701

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    On the subject of titles, am I correct in thinking that "the light fantastic" is comprised of article adjective, noun, and adjective? Is it even technically proper grammar in English to put an adjective after the noun it modifies?
     
  7. Deranged Nasat

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    Its truncated. The original is "light fantastic toe" in the context of dancing, as in nimble, fanciful movement.
     
  8. Christopher

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    Normally, no, but there's a literary device called anastrophe in which word order is inverted for aesthetic or rhetorical effect -- "the forest primeval," "quote the fights historical," "Stone walls do not a prison make," "Begun the Clone Wars have," etc. Although, as Nasat explained, that's not the case with this phrase.
     
  9. Idran

    Idran Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    And really, from a linguistic perspective, anything that people actually and purposefully say in the course of any sort of conversation is grammatical for the language they're speaking, it's just a question of finding what the grammar behind it is. :p
     
  10. Deranged Nasat

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    Some people are too attached to grammatical rules, and seem to believe that anything ungrammatical is automatically invalid. But the rules are simply a framework to ensure comprehension, and can be discarded when it's useful or effective to do so. Periodic violation of the rules of grammar for rhetorical impact is an important part of the effective use of language. Order is created from chaos so that disorder may manifest.
     
  11. Enterprise1701

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    What about "the body electric"? (not to say I'm against the wording; I like it in this case)
     
  12. Christopher

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    That's Walt Whitman, from a poem in Leaves of Grass, "I Sing the Body Electric." Which has been referenced as a title by numerous other things, notably a Ray Bradbury Twilight Zone episode and the story he based on it.
     
  13. kktwin

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    I really enjoyed this book Mr. Lang.
    Would love to have you publish another in the same vein.
    I only had one problemo, and this user echoed my sentiments:

    JoeZhang said:
    I really enjoyed this except for one element - part of the story arc of Alice is that she has escaped her servitude to Harry and let at the end when she is forced back into it and her agency is removed, nobody (within the story) comments upon it at all - a stance that seems at odds with some of the other themes presented in the book.

    No one sticks up for Alice....come on! It did get to me. I've read your previous postings and maybe, just maybe we'll get a resolution in your next (fingers crossed) book.

    Best.
     
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