Things you can do from Astrometrics -but not from bridge/engineering?

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  1. picardo

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    I've been wondering, some tasks that 7/9 performs in Astrometrics, it would seen, are easily accomplished from some of the bridge's consoles.

    Scanning for enemy ships, scanning a planet's surface, scanning for lifeforms, to name a few examples, either Kim or Tuvok do it often from their consoles.

    Also, in the episode "Omega", when Seven builds a containment chamber for the particles, that task seemed more appropriate for engineering I believe (actually during the episode there's a little feud between BElanna and Anika, which proves my point).

    Which leads me to the question, isn't there some duplicity in functions, operations being performed in Astrometrics vis-à-vis the bridge/engineering?

    I know the Astrometrics lab was built specifically for Seven (since BElanna would not accept her in engineering) and she needed a domain where she could put her infatigable borg efficiency to use, even if that meant taking attributions or functions that belonged to other departments.
     
  2. Bad Thoughts

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    Well, it seemed to me that Seven, originally a replacement for Harry Kim, would have been the new operations officer. It seems that her domain would include those things that the ops officer would normally do.
     
  3. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Also, Seven probably just likes to work alone. She would prefer to have her own duty station where no one else would bother her.
     
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    I think Astrometrics is the border between the main view screen and the holodeck. It's 3D projection may make it easier to create paths.

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    Stellar Cartography falls in the same category.
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    Plus, you don't have to block the main view screen or be forced to stare at a small screen while stargazing.
     
  5. picardo

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    Re: Things you can do from Astrometrics -but not from bridge/engineeri

    Actually, now that you mention it, I think it's also taken some functions that are better suited to the holodeck environment.
     
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    You can have private moments in Astrometrics.
     
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    It's the best place on the ship to set up a LAN party.
     
  8. Lance

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    Actually, I've just thought of a question.

    Are astrometrics and Stellar Cartography (as seen in GENS) basically the same thing?

    It's strange that we never see Stellar Cartography ever again in Star Trek, and even in Nemesis when a similar scene is called for the script calls it Astrometrics.

    Possibly Astrometrics was just a re-naming/expansion of what was called Stellar Cartography in the TNG era?
     
  9. HIjol

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    Oh...oh, my...
    "You are my Sun, my Moon, my Starlit Sky..."
     
  10. HIjol

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    That is how it appears to me...and I agree, I always thought both places were cool and wish they had shown them more...hmm...wonder if there are plans out there?..."Stellar Cartography" in my basement...wow!...LAN party, indeed!!!
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  11. Guy Gardener

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    Voyager had a Stellar Cartography "area" when it left Deep Space Nine in Caretaker. The Delaney sisters worked there. Thanks to Seven of Nine, they don't work there any more. Stupid Borg taking good decent Starfleet officers jobs.

    They're probably swabbing the lower decks now.

    Poor identical ####es.
     
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    There is no swabbing. Sonic-ing maybe.
     
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    You see it would be okay to think that maybe they both died, and that's why Seven thought that it was okay to build her house on top of their graveyard... But then B'Elanna sounds like a twisted little shit for casting dead women in her pornographic play (Muse).
     
  14. HIjol

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    Nice! :guffaw:
     
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    I am sure the Delaney sisters were bored to death in that lonely closet full of charts. I bet when 7 was obviously worth a dozen of them in her astrometric prowess they were THRILLED to escape.
     
  16. Guy Gardener

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    So what you're really saying, is that there's 10 more of them back home?

    Superb!
     
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    They're not interacting with the stars and planets so the holodeck isn't needed.

    Yeah, Stellar Cartography was built for the Alpha Quadrant. They were learning what's in the Delta Quadrant the same time as Voyager traveled. They were basically useless.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    Cartography means mapmaking. (Sorry.)

    Astrometrics means "measuring" the stars. (Maybe?)

    The real question, is how did they used to make maps?

    Long range scans can barely see a couple days ahead of their position.

    If that's as good as it got, then Stellar Cartography probably only showed Voyager where it had been, and how to back to where it had been, which is really no help at all, except in the cases of Jetrel, Hope and Fear, and Resolutions.

    Meanwhile Astrometrics showed everything (Well as close to everything as 3 billion stars counts.) allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the way home.
     
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    Whether its swabbing or sonic-ccc-ing this prospect isn't that bad. They would be sure to have a lively time bouncing their own cosmological theories off of Hardcore Harren!!! :D
     
  20. Melakon

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    Was Voyager ever able to positively identify the location of known stars before Astrometrics was installed?