They are going ahead with a Justice League movie

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  1. Admiral_Young

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    I certainly don't believe anything Cosmic Movie News is "reporting". Again, they're like Comic Book Movies.
     
  2. Christopher

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    That's a specious argument. Countless writers have treated fantastic subjects in a realistic style, by making the elements around the fantastic premise realistic. That's why there's a whole genre named "magic realism." Realistic fantasy or SF is about portraying a world that's like the real world except for one or two fanciful elements, and exploring the ramifications of those fanciful elements in a realistic way. In particular it means treating the characters realistically, having them behave like actual human beings would if faced with a given situation, however impossible that situation may be. For instance, someone getting superpowers and initially deciding to use them to make money is more realistic than someone getting superpowers and instantly going "We've gotta use that power to help mankind, right?" (even though Stan Lee wrote both of those instances within nine months of each other).
     
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    Agreed. A specious argument FOR a specious argument.

    Agreed. That's why I don't know how one could say Raimi's Spiderman wasn't "realistic." It very clearly is.
     
  4. Christopher

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    Well, the Raimi films are realistic in a Marvel sort of way -- they're set in a recognizable version of New York City, but a heightened one, combining naturalistic texture with broad fantasy and melodrama. For instance, nobody would say that the movies' J. Jonah Jameson is a particularly realistic character. He's a larger-than-life, comic figure, the way Stan Lee originally wrote him. And the digital version of Manhattan they created is based on the real one, looks and feels like the real one, but is exaggerated, with more tall buildings for Spidey to swing from and other additions like the elevated tracks in the Spidey/Ock subway fight (which was actually shot in Chicago). So there are plenty of degrees of realism. The Raimi Spider-Man films are more realistic than Burton's or Schumacher's Batman films, but less realistic than Nolan's Batman films or, say, Chronicle.
     
  5. Ian Keldon

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    Actually, NYC has had an "El" in the past, and parts of it still remain, albeit unused.

    http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2868

    In Marvel NYC, they simply never stopped using it.
     
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    People got mugged and killed in Burton's Batman movies too, but that would hardly be enough to qualify them as "realistic."

    I'm not saying Raimi's Spider-Man was an all-out campfest; just that it was fairly comic booky (in the way Donner's Superman was, or the Avengers).
     
  7. Guy Gardener

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    I wouldn't have minded a directors cut of that secne where Toby's arms get ripped off by trying to stop a train like that, or possibly segmented down his central axis.

    That there was a job for Superman.

    Spider-man should lant his fucking place in the natural order of super heroics.
     
  8. Christopher

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    Well, yes, and there are elevated tracks still in use in Queens (which makes me wonder why the movie scene wasn't just set there, considering that Peter Parker lives in Queens). But the point is that the movie used the real New York as a starting point and exaggerated/added to it. It's heightened realism rather than strict realism.
     
  9. Admiral_Young

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    I think Rami did a good job of balancing the comic book elements of the character and his world with realistic elements.
     
  10. Guy Gardener

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    You mean after some god awful casting decisions?
     
  11. Hartzilla2007

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    And a guy who mutates into a giant lizard monster is more realistic than this :wtf:
     
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    That's putting it mildly
     
  13. Admiral2

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    In that case, let's be serious.

    Since Hollywood likes to turn giant comic villains into space clouds (Rise of the Silver Surfer, Green Lantern), why not use Kronos ala JLA/Avengers, so at least the space cloud BS actually comes from the comic this time?
     
  14. Hartzilla2007

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    Isn't that guy more of a JSA villain.
     
  15. Guy Gardener

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    time jumping might as well mean world jumping if the tech is similar enough?

    There's been a few comics where the time crooks gather and he always seems put out about being the low man on the totem pole.
     
  16. Admiral2

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    I was joking...
     
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    Why? Gone Baby Gone and The town indicate that he's a solid director, he's an Oscar-winning writer and experienced producer as well.

    He's a very credible talent.
     
  20. Skywalker

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    And with that you prove that you have no idea what you're talking about.

    The article says that Affleck also wants to star in films he directs, though, so I can see that hampering things unless he decides not to star in JL.
     

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