The Wounded - Worf was right!!

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  1. indolover

    indolover Fleet Captain

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    A line in The Wounded always creases me up:

    "The Cardassians have no honour. I do not trust them."
    "They're our allies now, Mr. Worf, we have to trust them."
    "Trust is earned, not given away!"

    The thing is Worf was right, the Cardassians could not be trusted. :lol:
     
  2. sonak

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    yeah, it seems like that scene is supposed to be for laughs, to show Worf as paranoid and suspicious, but the end of the episode kind of undermines that, since WORF WAS RIGHT!:lol:
     
  3. R. Star

    R. Star Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Define Irony: The Klingons attacking Cardassia preemptively after the Central Command is overthrown in favor of a democracy because they HAVE to be changelings. This in effect being the primary reason they end up joining the Dominion.
     
  4. T'Girl

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    Cardassians joined with the Dominion because they're both inherently evil.
     
  5. R. Star

    R. Star Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    That's a pretty racist thing to say given the general theme of Star Trek.
     
  6. Dream

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    WORF WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG! (TM) :p
     
  7. Worf's Beard

    Worf's Beard Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Even when he's wrong, Worf is right.
     
  8. BennyRussel

    BennyRussel Commander Red Shirt

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    Your point is moot. Right or Wrong - no one was going to listen to him as usual.
     
  9. R. Star

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    Would you listen to the guy who growls a lot and has difficulty opening doors?
     
  10. MacLeod

    MacLeod Admiral Admiral

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    I think you'll find plenty of examples in history where one person says another person/group/nation is not to be trusted. Only to be all but ignored at the time, but proven correct later.
     
  11. MikeS

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    Are you comparing Worf to Sir Winston of Churchill?


    ...or perhaps Tony Bliar :lol:
     
  12. R. Star

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    Or Attila the Hun? :p
     
  13. Drago-Kazov

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    The cardies would not had been such a threat without the Dominion.
     
  14. Mrs Q

    Mrs Q Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Worf was right on so many occasions but noone listened to him. EVER!

    I remember one episode, Where Silence Has Lease, he warned them about the void and told them of a Klingon belief of something similar devouring ships and noone took any notice and, as usual, he was right.

    The look he gave Riker when they got trapped was priceless. It was like, see I told you. If you'd listened to me we wouldn't be in this situation. But you never listen to me.

    Poor old Worf.
     
  15. starburst

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    Cardassians arent inherently evil, nor are they inherently sneaky, its just thats the way they are portrayed because the majority of the ones which were featured were either soldiers or spies. It was in their training and perhaps in their up bringing - parents who act a certain way instil their ideals on their children and often they adopt that behaviour.

    We did see examples of Cardassians who could be trusted, like the scientists who worked on the Wormhole communications project (other than the spy obviously) and Dukats daughter…these individuals had a different upbringing.

    To say all Cardassians are evil is like to say all Bajorans are terrorists/freedom fighters (depending on which side you look at it) or Klingons are all bloodthirsty which has been shown not to be true.

    That said Worf was right, whether it was his mistrust which ended up being coming true out of chance or that they would have started a war with or without the Dominion whether the Klingons invaded or not.
     
  16. Mark_Nguyen

    Mark_Nguyen Commodore Commodore

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    Ever seen this? Worf IS usually right. And when Worf is right, everyone else is ALWAYS WRONG.

    [yt]http://youtu.be/edflm7Hh3hs[/yt]

    http://youtu.be/edflm7Hh3hs

    Mark
     
  17. T'Girl

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    The Cardassians did previously manage to fight the Federation to a standstill, and achieve possession of a portion of the territory that both the Union and the Federation coveted.

    :)
     
  18. T'Cal

    T'Cal Commodore Commodore

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    Maxwell was right as well. I had always hoped he would appear on DS9 as a Maquis officer. What a great character.
     
  19. Bamarren

    Bamarren Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Yeah the more you think about it, the more he was portrayed as the incorrect way to go, but in a tonne of episodes there was always that great look he gave people, that "See, I told you didnt I?!" look.

    No one wants to listen to a Klingon it seems.
     
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