Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Gotham Central, Jul 14, 2012.
Related point: In the Future of Trek forum (and in other posts) Christianity is attacked, but no one champions the elimination and/or censorship of that kind of language. If one form of "offensive" language has to go, it all needs to go.
just like corporations are not persons, religion is not a person or persons. You can change companies or the religion you are in but you cannot change your sexuality or race as it is innate and personnal. religions are not people but corporations that promote and sell spritual products and services. They are also idealogies and like any idealogies, they deserve to be treated as such.
Christianity is the basis of a faith and its associated teachings, not a corporation, and is as personal to its believers as any part of the inner self. However, if you insist on attacking it, then do not cry when gay people are treated with the same open disrespect you show here.
This is not "PC world--only when it suits my agenda," so if you open the door to hate, do no be surprised if it comes your way. Balance of the universe.
i was born in a very religious family and i was very religious growing up.But now i consider all religion as nothing more than idealogies and cults. I understand where you are coming from. But religion can be changed or abandoned even. It is not personnal. It is a form of brainwashing.
Just as you say that in bold, there is no absolute research stating that being gay is not--for some--a matter which can be considered born of nurture, rather than nature.
Faith is beginning of it all, which is within the mind and soul, while religion is the vehicle of translation regarding that belief, teaching and history. To even refer to it--in your blanketing, offensive manner--as brainwashing (and not personal) drips of hatred/agenda, or misinformation. Take your pick.
I'm sorry, but wasn't this supposed to be a thread for The Walking Dead?
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Do you really not see the problem with what you wrote? Are you really that dense or just so stubborn it doesn't matter?
Even through my own storied experience with your usual spiel, I might be willing to consider what you're saying, but your attitude is just seething with hatred and bigotry. And I don't have time for that shit.
Thanks for playing.
what a remarkable lack of awareness. To say something so offensive that drips of hatred/ agenda and then to accuse someone of the same thing almost in the same breath.
I'm betting it will be Milton. Andrea, at this point, seems to be a bit too obvious. Milton's relationship with the Gov goes back further than Andrea's making him an even bigger victim of their Dear Leader's abuse.
Certainly could be Andrea, but I think they could just as easily go another way.
I agree with you about religion. It's basically a way to start wars and control people with superstition.
But attacking religion is not really different than attacking behavior, whether that behavior is from a genetic component or not.
Andrea needs some form of redemption. That's why I think it will be her.
I think the Governor is not coming back from his mission, and if he does, Andrea would be a fool to wait for his return--even with help from Tyrese's sister.
You are not getting the point: if you are referring to the "Nature v nurture" comment, that is to illustrate how he cannot see that something he seems to care about can be judged in the same fashion. Moreover, referring to religion as "brainwashing" or a "cult" in his absolutist terms is born of his unrelenting hatred, while an analysis of behavior--free of hateful descriptions--is not.
It would be IF one were to say, "ahh yer just a bunch of freaks," or something along those lines, but it is quite obvious that was not implied.
Well, it was, and will be long after sideline conversations.
as an openly gay male can i just add:
to both sides.
This is a walking dead thread, not a relious debate thread or sexuality debate thread.
go back on topic and enjoy The Walking Dead from AMC! subtle eh?
BOOM back on topic.
I'm talking about a statue of a cat.
Thanks for playing.
Loud and clear, ensign.
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I have no idea who you are. Please tell me you're not creating in your mind some kind of relationship between us because I posted something about Star Trek Enterprise in 2002.
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