The Time Of The Doctor (Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by Samurai8472, Dec 25, 2013.

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Grade "The Time Of The Doctor"

Poll closed Feb 5, 2014.
  1. Geronimo!

    64 vote(s)
    30.5%
  2. Fish Fingers and Custard

    84 vote(s)
    40.0%
  3. Average

    36 vote(s)
    17.1%
  4. Not Good

    21 vote(s)
    10.0%
  5. Beans are evil. Bad bad beans! |

    5 vote(s)
    2.4%
  1. Mitty

    Mitty Vice Admiral Admiral

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  2. Gov Kodos

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    Perhaps a DVD or interview will ask if Moffat had thought of making the 50th and the Christmas special a two parter then decided to separate them or was asked to by higher ups? The 50th was so blatantly set up to either bring back the Time Lords or start the search that spending so much time on Trenzalore and the Crack without that set up being resolved or moved on makes for a lot of the flatness. Too much time was spent on dealing with the Doctor getting past his 'last' regeneration. That was a sham problem which was always going to get solved, so this would have been more satisfying had they focused more on tying this back to the 50th.
     
  3. EnderAKH

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    No, he said, "Ok, so, basically better regenerate, that's what you're saying?" to which Amelia replies "Regeneration disabled." Why would he bring up regeneration as an option if he knows he's out?
     
  4. Allyn Gibson

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    Ed Russell has, according to Gallifrey Base, said on Facebook that Alex was unavailable for the filming dates.

    I admit a part of me wants to think that Alex was "unavailable" in the sense that she read the script and said, "No effing way." :)
     
  5. Alidar Jarok

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    Maybe he hadn't connected all the dots yet and didn't know it was out? It's not like they taught what happens if your regeneration energy gets fed into your spare hand in Time Lord health class.
     
  6. SeerSGB

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    Plus at that point he was still denying, even to himself, the existence of the War Doctor. So he probably wasn't thinking about or counting that regeneration.
     
  7. Mr Pointy Ears

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    Didn't think much of it,i reckon the second half of season 7,the 50th and the xmas specials wernt as good,hope they get capaldi to drop his Scottish accent.
     
  8. Pauln6

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    I enjoyed it but it didn't really hit enough of the right notes for me. Since the series began the worst elements of the new format were the Doctor being too smug, the plot being too rushed, and the absence of any real drama. I think this was a classic example of too many of those elements all at once. I was swept along by it but it didn't really involve me.

    I've rather enjoyed Smith's run overall but I didn't feel emotionally involved in this episode at all. The absence of Alex Kingston may have had something to do with that, I suppose. The (not) return of the Time Lords is going to become very boring very quickly if they don't take it somewhere soon in the same way that using Daleks and Weeping Angels as throwaway villains who just turn up on a whim rather cheapens them as decent villains.

    However, I did like the way they baked the number of regenerations into the plot and the cameos that we did get were very sweet.
     
  9. Wereghost

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    Alternatively, he thinks the Silence may be present and for some reason doesn't want them to know he's out.
     
  10. shivkala

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    Actually, I didn't celebrate it, being Jewish and all. About the only thing I was looking forward to yesterday was "The Time of the Doctor."

    The TARDIS Data Core is where I got my information about the human colonists carrying Christmas with them into outer space"
    They also make mention of the fact that Christmas was enough to draw space tourists aboard the Titanic.

    Besides, The Doctor loves Christmas, I could see him spreading it throughout the universe. Not necessarily the religious aspect of it, but the aspect of it being about peace and thanksgiving, ah, who am I kidding, it's always about death and destruction with the Doctor around!
     
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  11. Shawnster

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    Yes, this is my question (sorry, I'm on page 14). Is "a new regeneration cycle" or reset or whatever just 1 additional regeneration or is it a completely new cycle of 12?
     
  12. Captain_Amasov

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    Perhaps he was saying it out loud as a resignation of his fate. Because the only way to save himself, or indeed any Time Lord at that point, would be regeneration, which he knew he couldn't achieve.
     
  13. I am not Spock

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    Or Star Trek either, for that matter!
     
  14. SeerSGB

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    Whole new cycle. He states that when he was saying go bye to Clara
     
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  15. Guy Gardener

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    We should have figured that out when he mentioned the seal of Rassilon acquired form t he Master in the Gallifreyan Death Zone halfway through the episode.
     
  16. 1001001

    1001001 I Like the Beats and the Shouting Moderator

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    We just finished the episode.

    I thought the ending was bit abrupt, but overall very good.

    Matt Smith did a great job, I think. Tennant is still my favorite, but Smith brought a child-like charm and humor that we really enjoyed.

    Lots of questions...is this a total reboot of The Doctor? Does he remember anything? Does he get a whole new set of regenerations?

    A long wait to find out...
     
  17. Guy Gardener

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    My post above yours.

    The Master was offered a new 12 in the five Doctors.

    That episode, was referenced in the Time of the Doctor.
     
  18. 1001001

    1001001 I Like the Beats and the Shouting Moderator

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    Well, that's how it seemed to me, but it didn't seem 100% clear.

    Since he couldn't remember how to fly the TARDIS, I was thinking total reboot.

    "Love from Gallifrey, Boys!"

    :lol:

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  19. Awesome Possum

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    He's had memory loss after regenerations before, they just haven't really done it in the new version. He recovers over the course of a story and gives an excuse to reintroduce the Doctor.
     
  20. kirk55555

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    I thought this was a pretty good episode. The ending was pretty cool, and I liked the somewhat dramatic regeneration reveal, then the very abrupt finishing of the regeneration in the TARDIS (Capaldi has crazy eyes :rommie: ). I'm assuming the "amnesia" is just temporary, since he was talking like he knew he had regenerated, so he knew at least what he is. If it wasn't just temporary that would be pretty lame, but I'm sure it is just for a little while. I liked Matt Smith pretty well, although not quite as much as 9 or 10. I'm excited to see what we het with Capaldi.