Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by SalvorHardin, Dec 6, 2012.
You fool, it's obviously her sister ship, 1702 built under the Pacific in case of emergencies
The nacelle is pretty severely foreshortened by perspective in that shot, which is throwing a lot of people off, but I have no doubt it's the same Enterprise from the last film.
I still don't see why some think that the beauty shot of a starship rising form the water would be wasted on anything other than the Enterprise.
It reminds me how back in the day, when we saw the 2009 trailers, some were saying that it wasn't the Enterprise in the shipyard being built on Earth.
Now you've gone and spoiled it by talking sense
Well people are pretty certain it's not the Enterprise crashing. So two ships end up in water?
Good trailer. After seeing this, the Into Darkness name makes sense. They are doing Heart of Darkness.
Startrekolypse Now. Luckily, no one made Cumberbun gain two hundred pounds and shave his head.
It'll undoubtedly be the best beauty shot of something coming out of the water since Ursula Andress in "Dr. No".
Yes. At least two.
It's not the Enterprise crashing at the end. Different situations and scenes.
I pretty sure the aft end is different.
The Enterprise is seen emerging from an entire ocean, landmass is visible, but many many miles away in the distance. The trailer also shows Kirk and Sulu in the middle of an ocean, on a large forest of red algae. Both imply an alien world and a controlled dive/surface.
The other ship is not the Enterprise, has a very different hull shape, and crashes into San Francisco bay surronded by the Earth buildings we see earlier in the trailer. She's also a good bit smaller than the Enterprise, and the trailer scenes with the onboard firefight and tilted sets are similar to, but somewhat different from, the Enterprise sets, implying it's another vessel.
And it's about...two years later in universe? the Enterprise can't have one minor refit to her nacelles in that time?
A valid point. Putting that much effort into the shot and including in the trailer does mean that this ship is important. So I am guessing that it is either the Enterprise, or perhaps it is the villain's ship/WMD.
It sort of looks like there are nacelles there, but the rest of the ship looks a bit too squashed looking to be the Enterprise. It's a little hard to tell with all the water, beyond that it is some sort of starship.
Or maybe it's the freakin Nautilus and the villain is Captain Nemo.
Perhaps it's that Terra Prime guy.
What if that scene with the hands is just some passing moment of no great significance in the film and JJ just ended that trailer with it to have some fun?
Kirk and Spock get high and feel up the partition walls together?
Abrams! You plagiarist...
I took that into account. Foreshortening still doesn't account for a complete lack of downward swoop on the engine fin. Plus the glowy thing at the back of the nacelle is higher than the run off at the front. If this were the original engines, sure, foreshortening *might* account for such elevations....but given how huge the front is now, I don't think it could. Also, the wall of water is pretty solid until a certain point, and then you can see the water moving behind the nacelle.
I think Mad Man 1701 built a 3D model....Maybe we can get some renders from this angle.
From the official synopsis:
"has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for, leaving our world in a state of crisis."
Again, based on this, and the limited info in the trailer, we don't know how many starships are dropped from orbit. Given the epic scale of movie Trek now, it could be many more than two and would also be an epic blow to Starfleet as well as making each falling ship a weapon of mass destruction if it hit a populated area.
I'm definitely teased. YAY!
It looks like to me the ship that's crashing into the water has taken some damage; it appears that the port nacelle is either burning or glowy, possibly from atmospheric friction or weapons fire.
"What's this stuff?"
Honestly, why spend millions of dollars on an epic scene for the NCC-One-Seven-Oh-Don't-Mind-Me-I'm-A-Stand-In?
Are you sure this is the same
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