The Spiritual Successor of Star Trek

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by Brainsucker, May 18, 2014.

  1. Sector 7

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    As did I. :techman:

    SeaQuest DSV had exploration and many other aspects of Star Trek. The crew was as easy to relate to as our own.
     
  2. Brainsucker

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    Well, just like I said that I just like the ship design and how they portrait the Alien Race there. I'm not a hard fan of Alien franchise. So I don't bother to research their universe. Plus, Weyland-Yutani is not an exploration company. They are a mega corporation with multi business. While my idea is a bit more of a company who focus on space exploration business. It's more of a privateer than a "Dallas" in space.
     
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  3. mos6507

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    Funny thing about predictions. If you wait enough, they almost always turn out wrong.

    I never would have predicted they'd make a movie about Transformers, let alone Battleship, and now they are actually going to do a Jem and the Holograms movie. With dreck like that being developed, and some of it inexplicably becoming huge hits, why discount reviving the prime timeline? It wouldn't probably be produced in a 90s Berman style, but it could be in the same canonical space.

    They're even giving Glen Larson big bucks to exec produce a reboot of BSG, and it will probably turn out more like the 70s show than the Moore version. That's something I doubt anyone expected would happen.

    Just be ready to eat your words, even though I don't necessarily expect this to happen in the near future.

    Oh, really?
     
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  4. Melakon

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    I don't see anything in that Memory Alpha article that invalidates Dennis' statement.
     
  5. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    ST Assignment Earth aired on March 28, 1968. DW Fury From the Deep aired between March 16 and April 20, 1968. It would have to involve time travel for DW to have influences ST.
     
  6. Brainsucker

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    The question is not about Star Trek will ever come back to TV again. But When it will happen. And the word of "When" in here has no limit. 50 years later? So can you wait for that long? or we should seek alternative? If the studio is allergic to create a new Star Trek series, you can only hope for something new.
     
  7. GalaxyX

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    I always considered StarGate SG-1 to be a spiritual successor to TOS, and SG-Atlantis as TNG's spiritual successor.
     
  8. Serveaux

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    Funny thing - one of us will be wrong. I'm comfortable working from here, thanks. :)

    Yes, really. Cute, though.

    Minus about 25 IQ points.
     
  9. BigJake

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    Truly outrageous! That is terrible news!

    :shifty: I am now going to do something that totally does not involve Googling that project.
     
  10. GalaxyX

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    I'll admit that both TOS and TNG were far more cerebral than the Stargate franchise ever wanted to be, but in terms of that sense of wonder and exploration, Stargate SG-x didn't do too bad. Atlantis could have been so much more, but it wasn't bad if you knew what to expect.
     
  11. Serveaux

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    I kind of liked SG-1. I liked Anderson.
     
  12. Greg Cox

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    Exactly. Forbidden Planet was the obvious inspiration for Star Trek, not a British TV show that nobody in America had seen at that point. Remember, this was before PBS reruns and the internet, kids. Doctor Who might as well have been airing on Mars . . . .

    And I like to think of Farscape as Trek's wild, black sheep offspring. Assuming Star Trek had sex with Buck Rogers and had a child out of wedlock, that is. :)
     
  13. BillJ

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    I consider Futurama the spiritual successor to Star Trek.
     
  14. BigJake

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    SeaQuest DSV was so obviously Star Trek-under-the-sea that I half consider Nathan Bridger to be a Trek captain.
     
  15. Serveaux

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    And assuming they were both tripping at the time. Farscape's awesome.

    People who find imaginary parallels between Doctor Who and "Assignment: Earth" are looking at the two shows very selectively and in complete isolation from the rest of the world and particularly television at the time the shows were made. The two shows didn't resemble one another any more closely than either one resembled "I Spy" except for both being in the science fiction genre.

    For one thing, Doctor Who was not the show in 1968 that it has become. The Doctor had been portrayed eccentrically by two older character actors, and neither would ever be mistaken for the sort of rugged action-adventure lead who dominated American TV at the time and which "Seven" fit to a "T." And let's take the single specific coincidental similarity between the two shows that everyone points to: Seven's pen device and the "sonic screwdriver."

    The screwdriver makes its first appearance in DW in the serial "Fury from the Deep" which was first broadcast beginning on March 16, 1968.

    Guess when "Assignment: Earth" was first broadcast?

    March 29, 1968.

    At the time that the Trek episode was being written, shot, and finished, the sonic screwdriver had never been seen (much less become a staple bit of business). Any supposed "influence" was impossible.

    A pretty obvious source of inspiration for this kind of thing, in those days, would have been the various miniature gadgets that were all over the place in the James Bond-derived "super-spy" genre of the 1960s - and, in fact, the heros on The Man From U.N.C.L.E., a hugely popular show on NBC, had been using communications devices disguised as pens for several years. If Roddenberry stole the gag, he most likely stole it from them.
     
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  16. Greg Cox

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    Exactly. "Assignment: Earth" owes more to 1960s spy-fi than Doctor Who. Derek Flint in Our Man Flint (1966) also had a multi-purpose gadget disguised as a pen--and that was two years before either the Doctor or Seven.

    It's only in hindsight that we can look for accidental parallels between the Doctor and Seven. At the time, there was no connection.
     
  17. CorporalCaptain

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    I've always assumed that the inspiration for Gary Seven was hinted at in the Seven. ;)

     
  18. Serveaux

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    Now there's a thought.
     
  19. Greg Cox

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    I've always thought that there was a heavy dose of The Day The Earth Stood Still in "Assignment: Earth." (The original 1951 movie, of course, not the remake.) Seven looks and acts a lot like Michael Rennie as Klaatu. And they're both emissaries from an advanced alien civilization intent to keeping humanity from destroying itself . . ..

    Basically, The Day The Earth Stood Still is to "Assignment: Earth" as Forbidden Planet is to Star Trek.
     
  20. CorporalCaptain

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    That makes a lot of sense. Of course, one main difference being that he's undercover instead of landing in a flying saucer in front of everybody.* Another is that he has a sexy shape-shifting black cat, instead of a giant silver robot that shoots rays out of its eye.

    * - Though, Klaatu does go undercover after he's attacked upon landing.