This completely ignores many other intricacies of applying law, like statutes of limitation and the fact that states very often refuse to enforce the laws of other states when they disagree with them. To suggest that the Federation would actively rely on an old Romulan charge that was never made, and possibly never even existed, in order to evict an entire planet without any attempt at discussion is plainly absurd. Yes, you've mentioned this before. You continue to ignore the fact that the Baku possession of the Briar patch planet very clearly *does* meet your time requirements, and you yet again refuse to name any other requirement for adverse possession which they supposedly do not meet. Whether Cestus III meets those time requirements, I couldn't say. I don't recall if the episode specified how old the colony was. I am reading the transcript right now. Here's the descriptions I find of the Baku history: "[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]We came here from a solar system on the verge of self-annihilation, ...where technology had created weapons that threatened to destroy all life. A small group of us set off to find a new home, ...a home that would be isolated from the threats of other worlds. ...That was three hundred and nine years ago." Talking about the benefits of isolation, but no mention of hiding. "[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]We've always known that to survive, we had to remain apart. It hasn't been easy. Many of the young people want to know more about the offland. ...They're attracted to stories of a faster pace of life.[/SIZE][/FONT]" [/SIZE][/FONT]More about isolation, still nothing about hiding. And that's it. What do you know? The film does not, in fact, say anything about the Baku hiding. [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2] This is also the only reference at all to the Federation's knowledge of the Baku's origins, making his original disregard (before the discovery of their level of knowledge) for the Prime directive still pretty inexcusable, since the prime directive is about prewarp civilizations, not just prewarp civilizations that still exist on their original homeworld. Something which someone clearly seemed to agree with, considering the Federation efforts at keeping their existence a secret from the Baku. Actually, Picard said the planet is in Federation Space, and Dougherty said 'We have the planet', a fairly ambiguous statement in the context of the film, after which Picard tried a few other tacks of argument before plainly stating: "We are betraying the principles upon which the Federation was founded."[/SIZE][/FONT] And no one at any point mentioned anything about how the Briar Patch supposedly became Federation space, nor did anything to refute the Baku's statement to have been living on the planet for 309 years: longer than the Federation has existed. If there are any trespassers in this scenario, it's the Federation. Dougherty claimed they would 'help' billions. In the process of covering his own ass. His main concern is the particles ability to 'double lifespans', which means your whole song and dance about the great medical benefits is also not in the film. So the Federation is violating its principles solely for the benefit of living a little longer, despite the fact that they already benefit from more or less the maximum natural human lifespan. According to Dougherty, whose word is the only source of a whole lot of the arguments you're making. He's also the only one who claims the Federation government has any real knowledge of the operation, but he still seems awfully uncertain of that same government's reaction if the Enterprise manages to get a message through. And you continue to avoid answering any inconvenient questions. I noticed your post contains no source for your repeatedly claimed 'fact' that the planet belonged to the Klingons and the Romulans before the Federation lol. You must really hate eminent domain.[/QUOTE] Pretty much. I'm well aware there are other opinions. And considering my stated opinion, it should be obvious that I think you have the right to believe in whatever sort of morality you want. I clearly do not agree. Considering the actual description of how Dougherty is going to 'help' billions, this argument has no relevance to this discussion. No, it doesn't. This is the epitomy of just making up your own facts to avoid answering the actual question. Space is huge and there is no reason whatsoever to believe that every single piece of it is already claimed by some 'great power'. Which means the planet was entirely unattached when the Baku arrived, making their claim to the planet very clearly superior to the Federation's. In light of the fact that you have clearly misrepresented a lot of those 'facts' throughout this discussion, I'd suggest you take your own advice and rewatch/reread the film before continuing the discussion.