The Single Worst Line of Dialogue in the entire Star Trek Franchise

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  1. The Old Mixer

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    Indeed, we look just as silly to them as they look to us. How many times have we referred to Trek uniforms as "pajamas"...?
     
  2. Bad Thoughts

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    No matter how well made the clothes are or what they represent, someone who is wearing garments appropriate for their job or their position will always be in uniform. The person who is pretending to do so, as was Q, will always be in costume. it has nothing to do with how Picard feels about the job represented by the uniform.
     
  3. Greg Cox

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    That's my take on it, too. Picard wasn't insulting the uniform. He was annoyed by an obnoxious alien playing dress-up.

    It's the difference between an actual nurse administering to the sick and somebody wearing a "sexy nurse" outfit at a Halloween party. The latter is just a costume.
     
  4. scotpens

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    Or these guys.

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  5. Bad Thoughts

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    ^^^Actually, Leatherman was wearing a uniform.
     
  6. Kinokima

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    This is one of my favorite movies and ahem being released by Criterion next month.

    However it actually was not a success at the time as people did feel it was in bad taste back then and just didn't get it.
     
  7. Push The Button

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    I rewatched Encounter at Farpoint today, and the exchange between Q (in his Marine Corps uniform) and Picard goes like this:

    Q: But you can't deny that you're still a dangerous, savage child race.

    PICARD: Most certainly I deny it. I agree we still were when humans wore costumes like that, four hundred years ago.


    Sorry, but this is first-season Picard being a douche. He exhibits the same elitist attitude in "The Neutral Zone".

    Fortunately, his attitude improved in later seasons, along with everything else in TNG.
     
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  8. USS Excelsior

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    This entire dialogue is the worst.


    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHoGLHt0hQ[/yt]
     
  9. -Brett-

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    "Freakasaurus" is hardly an example of contemporary slang or colloquialism. I sincerely doubt that it was ever uttered by anyone outside of Star Trek. Ever.
     
  10. Anwar

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    God forbid a character have flaws and act human, because thinking yourself superior to people from 400 years in the past is a totally human thing and it's something a 21st century person would think of stuff from the 17th Century.
     
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    Yeah but it's Picard, man !! PICARD !
     
  12. JirinPanthosa

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    And it's hard to argue the fact that territory wars are dangerously savage.
     
  13. T'Girl

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    We have access to technology and other advancements, but we are in no way "superior" to our ancestors of a few centuries ago, at least I don't feel that way.

    The clothes do not make the man.

    :)
     
  14. Anwar

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    Sure, if you really think about it like that. I'm just saying what an average guy on the street would think. Ask some guy on the block and he'll say "Yeah, of course we're better than those guys!".
     
  15. Edit_XYZ

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    "superior" is far to general a term; using only it, you can't make meaningful pronouncements regarding whether present day humans are or not superior to their ancestors.

    You need to define the criteria you use for applying the label "superior".
     
  16. Colonel Midnight

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    If we're talking delivery/acting of dialogue... I'm surprised no one's nominated Intergalactic Cheerleader Troi's "Absolute joy and happiness" drivel from the end of Encounter at Farpoint. *Yeeesh*

    For sheer dumb/ridiculousness of dialogue, then definitely the "Get the cheese to Sickbay" quote. *barf*

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  17. Greg Cox

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    I don't know. TOS was full of stunning yeoman in short skirts reporting to the bridge and none of them ever made a point of mentioning their oaths of celibacy to the captain. If you don't know that she's supposed to be some kind of super-sexual alien (and I don't recall this ever being discussed in the film), wouldn't you find it odd that this particular Star Trek sex symbol had to take some sort of oath, as opposed to all the glamorous guest-stars on the original series?

    Plus, of course, the oath business is never referred to again and has nothing to do with the rest of the movie. Unlike, say, Spock's pursuit of pure logic which does figure into the plot and themes of the film. If they wanted to include that line, there should have been some sort of payoff later on . . . .

    As is, it just stands out like a sore thumb. IMHO.
     
  18. dub

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    You know, I've never thought about this particular scene too much until this thread. I suppose when I've watched this film in the past, I thought she must give off some excess pheromones or something, making her irresistible. That's why all of the crew break their necks to get a glimpse of her when she walks on the bridge. I mean, she was beautiful, but as Greg said, beautiful women were a dime a dozen on the Enterprise. But, also as Greg said, there was never any payoff for that line (which is what I've never thought about before now). You'd expect to see officers drooling as she walked through the corridors. Although, it might explain why V'ger found her to be an irresistible choice. Perhaps V'ger could "detect" her extraordinary attractiveness somehow? LOL
     
  19. scotpens

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    AAAAAGGH! More insufferably preachy than the preachiest episodes of Trek TOS. :ack:
     
  20. DalekJim

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    "Buckle up!"
     

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