The Romulan War: Beneath the Raptor's Wing - Discuss (SPOILERS)

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  1. Nerroth

    Nerroth Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    There's already been a trial run of a Klingon-themed short story anthology, For The Glory of the Empire, and there should be a Romulan-themed one about the Day of the Eagle sooner or later.

    Full-length novels shouldn't be an issue if ADB do the print run themselves, but I wouldn't hold your breath when it comes to anything being released via Pocket...

    There's a non-historical take on the start of that event in Stellar Shadow Journal #1 - but I can't think of an historical fiction piece which tackles it, off the top of my head.
     
  2. kaysea

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    Just finished reading the novel and I would give it a 2/5. Its too slow! and doesn't really go anywhere ... for 450 pages!. The author was practically given a great plot with an epic backstory that star trek fans have been craving to learn about and the author practically dropped the ball on this one.

    I won't be reading another novel by Michael A Martin again. When the continuation of this novel ever does come out I will only read a summary of it.
     
  3. BorgPhil

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    Just finished reading this and really enjoyed it. I think he's done a great job of fitting it in with existing canon, the vaporizing/removing of all Romulan bodies/technology is just about the only bit that is a bit unbelievable. I mean at this stage, I think Earth would make it an absolute priority to somehow get hold of a body or an alive Romulan.

    Also, what do the Romulans gain from remaining mysterious? Surely if they revealed the Vulcan-Romulan link that would simply create more turmoil in the Coalition.

    I think the telecapture device's success with the other coalition ships is also going to lead into a nice reason why Federation ships are basically Earth ships - Earth technology was the least affected, therefore it's sensible that they would be the ships used by the fledgling Federation.

    Any thoughts on how this will pan out? We all know it will end with the 'decisive' battle of Cheron and I think this will probably involve some sort of Romulan plan to attack Earth itself with the Vulcans riding to the rescue at the last minute. I'm looking forward to seeing how the establishment of the Neutral Zone is dealt with.

    Shame we have to wait so long!
     
  4. Turtletrekker

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    As long as the link between Vulcans and Romulans is a secret, the Romulans have an espionage advantage in that they can more easily infiltrate and sabotage an enemy's infrastructure. Once the secret is out, then operatives that are in place have to be that much more careful to gain access and avoid exposure.

    Also, if the Coalition/Federation doesn't know about the genetic link, then they also don't know that they can infiltrate Romulan space using Vulcans the same way that the Romulans infiltrated the Vulcans.
     
  5. Sci

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    Personally, I've always thought that the final battle of the Earth-Romulus War might have been held in orbit or on the surface of Charon, Pluto's moon.
     
  6. ProwlAlpha

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    I agree, I really did not like this book, it was laced with too much anti-military with the reporter and the kid joining the MACOs. The book was very slow and Archer pretty much whined the entire time.
     
  7. Sci

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    Erm, BorgPhil said that he did enjoy it. So you don't agree, you disagree.
     
  8. ProwlAlpha

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    No, I obviously agree with Kaysea
     
  9. Sci

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    Erm, why is it obvious that you agree with someone who posted five months ago when the person who revived the thread this weekend was BorgPhil?
     
  10. ProwlAlpha

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    Give it a rest.
     
  11. Dimesdan

    Dimesdan "Down with this sort of thing!" Premium Member

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    QFT
     
  12. Sci

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    Dude, I just didn't understand what the hell you were saying. Stop assuming I'm trying to insult you.
     
  13. ProwlAlpha

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    I explained on who I was referring and you took it a step further. Now back to the book, it sucked. I hope the next book is written by someone who does not have an anti-military bias.
     
  14. Sci

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    And it wasn't the fact of who you were referring to that made no sense to me, it was the use of the term "obviously." As though anyone who didn't divine the fact that you were expressing agreement with someone who posted months and months ago rather than the person who revived the thread is being foolish. Do you see where this could be confusing to others?
     
  15. Deranged Nasat

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    Just a friendly question; what precisely do you mean by "an anti-military bias"? You mentioned "that kid who joined the MACOs" in your earlier post- but he was a) shown as eager to join for an understandable reason, and b) portrayed sympathetically throughout. So what's the problem?
     
  16. ProwlAlpha

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    He has shown as the naive kid who blindly received the call to join up or at least that is how he was portrayed. Secondly, with the reporter, I failed to see the relevance with that plotline other than the fact to show the "bad" military and censorship.

    Also, the story was extremely slow and Archer, pretty much, whined the entire time.
     
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  17. TerraUnam

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    BTRW has to show Earth and its allies losing. Just like the US lost for the first six months of the Pacific War until Midway. The reporter lets us see the civilian fear and reaction that the war creates.

    The similarities between real-life WWII and the Earth-Romulan War aren't coincidental. Two enemies with huge cultural gaps, different visions, and a race war boiling underneath. Plus Starfleet gets most of its big ships blown up just like the US Navy had a good portion of its carriers sunk in action.
     
  18. ProwlAlpha

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    Nope, reporter plot does not accomplish that and secondly only a couple of carriers were taken out in the early phase of the war, the Lexington and the Yorktown.

    I don't see the Earth-Romulan War in comparison to WWII. The author portrayed it more like the atmosphere of the Iraq War, especially with the Mars Indian colony scene.
     
  19. TerraUnam

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    Nope, the Lexington, Yorktown, Hornet and Wasp were all sunk. The three remaining carriers were the Ranger, Saratoga and Enterprise. Ranger didn't count because it was too small.
     
  20. ProwlAlpha

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    Ok, I goofed on the carriers, but the Lexington and Wasp were sunk when the US and Allies were fighting a defensive war and the Yorktown and the Hornet were sunk during pivotal battles that turn the tide of the war. Either way, the Earth-Romulan War and World War II were not similar at all.

    On another note, I really don't get the massive Daedalus numbers in the novel, especially when you have ships such as the Intrepid, Delta-hull ship, the Sarajevo, and the Steamrunner-like ship from Home that should have played a better part in the war. Not the NXs getting their ass kicked with Daedaluses falling with them.