The Revolution pilot is online now...

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Gotham Central, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    It was the mirror universe Oceanic Flight 815.

    that bastard is suicidal.
     
  2. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2011
    Location:
    "Who are you?"
    Oh, you mean a flash drive? :rofl: :rofl: (If so, let me laugh even harder.)
     
  3. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2008
    Location:
    A Long Time Ago...
    ^your criticism would be more biting if you knew the subject material. As it is, you only make yourself look silly.
     
  4. The Green Mushroom

    The Green Mushroom Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2001
    Location:
    United States
    I doubt it. I was just pointing out that the book and the TV show had pretty much the same thing happen. The way the plane crashed in the show made it look like it was almost lassoed and pulled down.

    I would think that only a militarily incompetent idiot would hand out swords before handing out guns. Give man a gun and he can shoot it in a few minutes and be useful (in the 17th century sense) in battle in a few days or weeks. Give a man a sword and wait months for him to be of any use.

    Someone does seem to have found a way to start making things. In a way that almost makes sense. I know at least one guy who lives within 50 miles of me and does blacksmithing for fun. A bunch of whack job Doomsday Preppers might find ways to encourage him to make more than 19th century style horseshoes and door handles.
     
  5. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2011
    Location:
    "Who are you?"
    The NBC website wants me to watch an ad in order to watch the show, so, no thanks.
     
  6. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2008
    Location:
    A Long Time Ago...
    ^Watch it on IO9 then.
     
  7. Timelord Victorious

    Timelord Victorious Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2006
    Location:
    Germany, Earth, the Solar System
    I have seen that story before... in a DS9 episode of which the title escapes me right now.

    So I predict it's the exact same thing happening here just on a bigger scale.
     
  8. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    It would have taken years for the obvious stores of bullets to run out, and the guns to be collected by Munroe, where all the wolves killed each other. After that, what you got left is sheep (in theory).

    Besides, Munroe is just a ruler, who collects taxes to pay for public works and protection from very real threats. You don't know what it's like to guard the frontier to his territories to keep all those sheep safe, or what his plans for expansion are. Mexicans and Canadians might be long way off, if he just runs a state or two, then Munroe has to deal with raiding parties from formerly fellow Americans thinking that they can pull one over on him.

    What if what we are seeing is the malitia armed for police duties? Meanwhile on the border there's no shit about how well the 16th century rules. Theres just a lot of machine guns and they're being used constantly.
     
  9. Temis the Vorta

    Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1999
    Location:
    Tatoinne
    Because even the Grand Wizard of the KKK wouldnt dare dis Gus Fring? ;)
     
  10. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    We don't know how much land Munroe controls.

    We don't know if he's smashed or assimilated his nieghbours, or if their are cordial borders with truces, or actively hot borders on the brink of even more war... Then again, our heroes "walked" to Chicago in 2 days, which is maybe 40 miles. Which is what 1/2 an hour in car.

    There could be thousands of warlords just like Munroe up and down North America.
     
  11. Dream

    Dream Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2001
    Location:
    Hotel Transylvania
    What's with the stupid annoying teen couple? Why do all recent Sci Fi shows need to have this crap?
     
  12. AvBaur

    AvBaur Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Location:
    Berlin, Germany
    I tried to watch it today, but couldn't get myself to care about any of it. The premise is utterly silly and the characters are boring as hell. Turned it off after 25 minutes or so. J.J. Abrams' pilots just keep getting worse and worse, don't they? I mean, Alias and Lost had fantastic pilots, but between Undercovers, Alcatraz, and this, I don't think he's got it any more. Or maybe he just has too much on his plate these days to care about tv? I would have expected more from Jon Favreau, as well.

    I guess it's not fair to judge a show based on half a pilot, but I just couldn't see it getting much better any time soon. I mean, the Lost and Alias pilots had me hooked after the first 5 minutes, while this one didn't introduce a single major plot point or character that didn't have me shaking my head at the half-baked clich├ęs.

    Oh well, I might give it another shot if I hear it improves a lot after a couple of episodes, but so far I'm a bit disappointed.
     
  13. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    There's a sword fight near the end that rivals Wesley vs. Inigo in the Princess Bride.
     
  14. sojourner

    sojourner Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2008
    Location:
    A Long Time Ago...
    No, that sword fight was more "Kill Bill" than "Princess Bride". No panache.
     
  15. Anwar

    Anwar Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2006
    Location:
    Regina, SK, Canada
    I saw the pilot at the Toronto Fan-Expo about 2 weeks ago, Billy Burke himself was a surprise guest.

    It was better than I thought. They're all too good looking and well-dressed but that's a conceit of TV. And I wasn't expecting General Munroe to be Charlies' Uncles' partner from before the blackout, or the twist with the convenient medicine woman. I'll keep up because there's a bit of interest.
     
  16. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    It's just the lack of English accents.

    Well.

    There was one English Accent.

    But that's neither here nor there.

    The cinematography lost track of what was going on now and then, but the stunt coordinator is first rate. though what's the answer to this problem? Tell the stuntmen to be less amazing so that the cameramen can keep up?

    And what's wrong with Kill Bill?

    With all this post apocalypicsism talk, I started reading Y the last man this morning.

    Revolution is heads and shoulders above Elementary, which isn't actually it's competition, but two new shows come out on the same day and we will make comparisons.
     
  17. aelius

    aelius Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2004
    Location:
    Magna Roma
    What...:eek:
    Virtually all airliners today are fly-by-wire. Without electricity they have no controls. They would fall out of the sky like so many rocks.
     
  18. Mister Fandango

    Mister Fandango Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2012
    No, it won't fall like a rock. It will not magically lose all forward momentum and fall straight down. Not in a dive or an incline or anything. But literally straight down. Like someone lifted it up and then let go. Since, you know, that's exactly what happened in the show.

    And where are all the simple mechanical machines in this setting? They clearly work, as made evident with the crossbows and modern firearms. Chemical systems still work, too, courtesy of seeing gunpowder and stills in action. So, where exactly is all the industrial revolution-esque technology? And how did entire cities, in which people are clearly still living, get overgrown with vegetation in only 15 years time?

    Assuming that this magical field is being created by a satellite network (which is the only possibly way it could be, short of "magic"), then why wouldn't electrical systems work underground or inside certain types of buildings or rooms? Especially when we see that it is clearly possibly to have a field that protects against the effect (but which, for whatever reason, requires a makeshift computer rather than, you know, a real one, of which there would be tons to pick and choose from)?

    It's infuriating.
     
  19. Gotham Central

    Gotham Central Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 15, 2001
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    Did anyone else get a Jericho feeling from watching this? The overought family drama was clearly there....but the woman with the computer that seems to know things definately made me think of Lenny James in Jericho.
     
  20. Gotham Central

    Gotham Central Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 15, 2001
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    The overgrown vegetation did not really bother me. If Life After People has tought me anything its that plants would take over farly quickly without people to maintain the structures. (of course the shot of Wrigley Field seemed odd since it was TOO overgrown especially given that its located in a densely packed part of the city).

    The airplanes suddenly falling made no sense. Airplanes are perfectly capable of gliding unless the pilots suddenly fell asleep.

    What no one seems to have addressed is the fact that there are quite a few nuclear power plants in Illinois. If power suddenly stopped working there would be nothing to prevent them (or any of the hundreds of plants around the world) from going into meltdown.