The Opening Of Star Trek 3

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by Cinema Geekly, Sep 23, 2013.

  1. Lord Garth FOI

    Lord Garth FOI Commander Red Shirt

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    Cupcake be dead
     
  2. CorporalClegg

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    Maybe he's defrosting?
     
  3. C.E. Evans

    C.E. Evans Admiral Admiral

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    When be that happen?
     
  4. The Stig

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    Every filmmaker tweaks scene order for pacing reasons. That's what the editing process is for.

    I get that you're on a mission from God to criticize the Abrams films but this is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read in this forum.

    That's an achievement, I guess.
     
  5. geneo

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    How about opening the movie with young Kirk and older Kirk meeting each other in the Nexus having a discussion about young Kirk's future, after all, it is his "echo" that is still left in there just like it is for Guinan. Older Kirk telling younger Kirk not to let Starfleet get in the way of a happy home and to go marry Carol and make it work.
     
  6. BillJ

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    Zzzzzzzzzz...
     
  7. drumvan

    drumvan Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    that would be a neat idea. i like it. spock - "cross circuiting to b". kirk - "gentlemen, i suggest you beam me aboard"!
     
  8. YellowSubmarine

    YellowSubmarine Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    That won't work unless they are riding horses with Picard.
     
  9. Locutus of Bored

    Locutus of Bored The Mod Awakens Moderator

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    Only in the novelization, where he was killed by a Klingon with a bat'leth. In the movie he's shown in the security detail escorting the captured Harrison aboard the Enterprise.

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  10. C.E. Evans

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    Oh, Cupcake be not dead then.
    :lol:
     
  11. mattman8907

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    i think that is a different red shirt all together. remember cupcake had a beard, this guy does not.
     
  12. Set Harth

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    That doesn't look like Cupcake/Hendorff.
     
  13. BillJ

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    I agree with these two. That doesn't look like Cupcake.
     
  14. Dick_Valentine

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    Cupcake be schrodinger's cat.
     
  15. Agenda

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    Spock is climbing a mountain, and falls. Kirk saves him! A testy Uhura meets them at the campsite, while Scotty and Bones become lost in the woods. Later they all sing a Beatles tune by the fire. Defenders of the film call it a brilliant inversion of the original. Everyone else calls it a surreal ripoff.
     
  16. JarodRussell

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    An opening similar to Prometheus would be interesting. A wide shot with the Enterprise being extremely tiny, moving at extremely fast speed through the frame. Then a 10 minute steadicam shot moving through the ship, following the characters doing their routine jobs during the 5-year mission, ending with Kirk and Spock playing 3D chess in the lounge.

    But that would be quality, and they don't do that in this timeline.
     
  17. bbailey861

    bbailey861 Admiral Premium Member

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    You can say that again.
     
  18. C.E. Evans

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    It's the same actor (Jason Matthew Smith). He just ditched the goatee and let his hair grow out some.

    Smith was credited in the end credits as "Burly Cadet #1" in Star Trek XI and actually as "Cupcake" in Star Trek XII (despite being addressed onscreen in the latter as "Mr. Hendorff").
     
  19. M'Sharak

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    You're correct concerning the credits, but I think mattman8907 and Set Harth are also correct in saying the large redshirt behind Cumberbatch's left shoulder in the scene which has Khan being escorted by the security detail does not look like Jason Matthew Smith's Cupcake. Compare the image accompanying this article (different camera angle than the shot provided upthread) to Cupcake/Hendorff's appearance during the chase scene. They're not the same actor.

    [Edit: the large redshirt in the security detail scene is probably this guy - looks like he played the large alien cadet in the last movie.]
     

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  20. C.E. Evans

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    Hmm, lighting does make a world of difference.