The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

Discussion in 'The Next Generation' started by jefferiestubes8, May 14, 2011.

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  1. Dukhat

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    I believe your quotes are off, because this quote is from me:

    I was referring only to the four new Starfleet ship models shown in the movie, because that's what CRA was referring to in my response to him. I'm also pretty sure the Defiant was physical. There were also lo-rez CGI models of the Miranda and Oberth classes in the battle too, and a Nebula (although I don't know if the Nebbie was CGI or physical).
     
  2. Hober Mallow

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    I'm not really a fan of either DS9 or Voyager, but I've no doubt both series will receive the same HD treatment at some point that TNG is getting now. The fact is Paramount has made money off of both shows, and if there is any more money to be made from them, the studio will pursue it. They'll squeeze every last bit of value they can get out of both of them. The shows on HD will mean blu-ray sales, more syndication deals, and a chance to market the shows to an audience that hasn't yet seen them. Of course Paramount's going to do it.
     
  3. DS9forever

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    I'm looking forward to seeing Deep Space 9 in "Birthright, Part I". It would be nice if they added in runabouts as well.
     
  4. USS KG5

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    YMMV of course - I suspect we will find out in the fullness of time. It isn't my decision after all!
     
  5. Akiraprise

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    Not just picking on you here Hober Mallow but I've seen this stated around this board for a long time like it's a bad thing. Of course the studio is going to squeeze these shows for everything they are worth. Why wouldn't they? It's easy money in their pocket. They don't make these shows out of the goodness of their hearts for all of humanity to enjoy. They upfront the costs of them to make their stock holders money. We are the consumer. We give them our money to keep us entertained.
     
  6. AviTrek

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    Except they did make a big deal when all the Star Trek shows were included in the Netflix streaming deal. If Netflix or Amazon or iTunes sees value in paying CBS for an HD version of DS9/VOY then CBS will provide the HD version.
     
  7. Harvey

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    Netflix might see value in HD versions of Trek, but I doubt that's a significant enough revenue stream to finance similar work on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine to what is currently being done for Star Trek: The Next Generation. Home video and, more importantly, syndication, have to come into play as well.
     
  8. Pseudo

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    I can see what you're saying, but I'm not sure on Netflix/Amazon financials and the how Star Trek is doing in them, so if anyone's got any figures I'd love to see them.

    Indisputably, online distribution is the way of the future (so to speak) but I just don't see DS9-R and VOY-R bringing the same interest and sales uplift that TNG-R and TOS-R are bringing to the table. I think that they'll go as far as TNG-R, but the laws of diminishing returns and with one series at least, a lack of interest, will mean that VOY-R and DS9-R will never happen. As ever I'm more than ecstatic to be shown otherwise.
     
  9. FrontierTrek

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    Hey all, I've updated our coverage on TrekCore with a new feature I've been working on over the past few days. We've taken all new stills straight from the original DVDs corresponding to the stills I took from the HD trailer from CBS and put them in a format where you can directly compare them frame-for-frame.

    This is what sells the project for me - it's all too easy to forget just how bad TNG looks on DVD until you compare it like this!

    http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/index.html#analysis2
     
  10. Savage Dragon

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    Nice! I cannot wait to see how much better it looks at 1080p on my HDTV at home!
     
  11. JarodRussell

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    I think I remember all these discussions about TNG-R. It's too expensive, it will never be done, etc...
     
  12. Tosk

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    I was thinking something similar. :)
     
  13. Falcor5

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    Wow awesome!! When you look at each frame compared to the old dvd the differences are stunning!!

    It seems kinda weird to me that only some of the images have a wider aspect ration than on the DVD version. Does that mean some episodes will have a slightly wider aspect ratio than others on the Blu-ray releases?
     
  14. Jefferies

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    It's the way of the world though isn't it? You always get the nay-sayers who feel their limited imagination represents a physical limit in the real world. We were faced with people like this at the dawn of the railway and of aviation, and pretty much any other ground braking inovation in history. These days they decry the feasibility of regenerative medicine, moore's law, the genetic revolution and of course DS9 and VOY Remastered. :lol:
     
  15. Squiggy

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    I wouldn't call it a "big deal"...they just announced it. There wasn't a party.

    Also, it cost Paramount nothing to give Netflix the streaming rights...I'm sure they made a pretty penny off of it so of course they did it.
     
  16. 22 Stars

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    Once again, great work! You might want to approach Amazon.com offering a link to this demo, to help inspire purchases!
     
  17. 22 Stars

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    Lol, I'm SO glad you included the laughing face at the end.... I was about to say something about comparing these things... :techman:
     
  18. Captain Robert April

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    At that time, it was thought that the effects elements only existed on video, which would mean that everything would have to be reshot from scratch.

    The fact that the original elements still exist on film changes the equation considerably.
     
  19. Salinga

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    The chances for DS9/VOY in HD are probably better, if the conversion team behind TNG in HD learned a lot about optimizing the process with the TNG material. After that, converting DS9 and VOY is probably much cheaper than it is with TNG right now.

    Maybe its here like with shooting TNG and then the later shows: The producers took what they learned with TNG to be more efficient with the spinoffs.
     
  20. Jefferies

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    I don't believe this is quite correct. I remember there were always a few who pointed out that the raw effects elements probably still existed on film. However, the fact that the post production process would have to be redone was seen as an insurmountable obstacle. So much so that recreating everything with CGI was argued to be easier to do but still too expensive to be financially feasible. Fortunately, the doomsayers where proven wrong.
     
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