The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 30, 2009.

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Grade the movie...

  1. Excellent

    707 vote(s)
    62.7%
  2. Above Average

    213 vote(s)
    18.9%
  3. Average

    84 vote(s)
    7.5%
  4. Below Average

    46 vote(s)
    4.1%
  5. Poor

    77 vote(s)
    6.8%
  1. Borgminister

    Borgminister Admiral Moderator

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    Plus, you do get "food for thought", even though it is lite fare.

    Do two wrongs make a right?
    Should Nero have been saved?

    At least one can discuss these topics, which were raised but not ponderously by the movie.

    I really, really hope Trek doesn't get pedantic with any future movies. Yes, perhaps a bit more depth would be nice, but let the audience figure things out and talk around the water cooler later.

    No sledgehammers.
     
  2. golakers

    golakers Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Wow.

    This was it! The Star Trek film that I knew we deserved after all the [relative] crap that Berman & Bennett threw at us over the years.

    I just got back from watching it at the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood, CA. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Sure it's not high sci-fi, but it was a heck of a good time.

    What a great feeling to see this film!

    golakers
     
  3. jazzstick

    jazzstick Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I think what "Spock Prime" did in this movie was a bit of a stretch!
     
  4. Jackson_Roykirk

    Jackson_Roykirk Commodore Commodore

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    Re: Galaxy Quest, oops, I mean Star Trek 11

    "...Galaxy Quest, and all that came before it."

    Actually, it was an tribute to ONLY what came before Galaxy Quest, not Galaxy Quest itself.
     
  5. jazzstick

    jazzstick Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Nimoy's acting was very very forced and this Spock was a bit out of Character!
     
  6. mysticgeek

    mysticgeek Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    @jazzstick:

    The entire movie made me think! I kept thinking "Why is Hollywood using mall-core pretty boys in an attempt to make Star Trek trendy??"

    Oh yeah ... the money.
     
  7. Coloratura

    Coloratura Snuggle Princess Premium Member

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    Nimoy didn't think so.


    J.
     
  8. jazzstick

    jazzstick Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    So...?
     
  9. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Because three-quarters of the "mall-core pretty" cast are better actors than the originals were, for starts.
     
  10. Coloratura

    Coloratura Snuggle Princess Premium Member

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    Nothing. I just think he's far more authoritative in whether he got his own character right. Your mileage may vary.

    J.
     
  11. Borgminister

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    Should they have used overweight octogenarians instead in an effort to lose money?

    :lol:
     
  12. cyberengland

    cyberengland Ensign Red Shirt

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    You know, this is like experiencing the legendary broken record yet again...
    I remember when Leonard Nimoy was a guest on the Today show, and had a very
    complimentary interview with Gene Shalit about the new Star Trek: The Motion
    Picture. 24 hours later Shalit trashed the new movie. Yet the new movie went
    on to make a load of money for its day...

    I remember when Next Generation was about to debut, and the Trek fans and
    critics and naysayers were saying "It's not Trek because there's no Kirk and
    Spock and McCoy". It lasted more than twice as long as the original series,
    and wasn't even on a network...

    I remember when Deep Space Nine was about to debut, and the Trek fans and
    critics and naysayers were saying "It's not Trek because it's not on a
    starship, and is dark and moody". It lasted seven seasons and was also a hit
    in syndication...

    I remember when Generations was about to debut on the big screen, and there
    was all this talk by the Trek fans and critics and naysayers about Kirk
    dying, officially passing the torch to the Next Gen cast for movies, and
    Trek fans saying that the movies would fail because there was no Kirk and
    Spock and McCoy on the big screen...

    I remember when Voyager was about to debut, and Trek fans and critics and
    naysayers were calling it "Kirk Lite" and such because it was returning to
    the concept of a starship on the frontier with no contact with Starfleet or
    familiar planets. It lasted seven seasons and was often one of the top show
    on the new UPN network...

    I remember when Enterprise was about to debut, and the Trek fans and critics
    and naysayers were saying that it would destroy canon by doing things that
    contradicted history as filmed in all the preceding series and movies.
    Having watched every episode and looking for such contradictions, I posit
    that while canon may have been brushed against, there was no breaking of
    canon. In fact, I really enjoyed it because aside from the novels there was
    no "official" history of how the Federation was founded. I just wish UPN
    would have given it more time because it was finally making its strides...

    I remember the trashing Nemesis got. I believe that had the movie not opened
    against James Bond, Lord of the Rings, and Harry Potter at the same time, it
    would have done so much better at the domestic box office. I also remember
    reading reports that in other countries where it opened without this same
    competition, it was number one outside the US.

    Through all the decades I have experienced and witnessed constant bashing
    and trashing of Star Trek, first in the media and then the Internet, I have
    remained a fan. I ignore all the constant trashing and bashing by people who
    have nothing better to do than say "it's a waste of money" or "it's not
    Shatner" or fill-in-your-blank-of-choice. My wife and I had an incredible
    time today at the theatre, and were completely and totally tied to the big
    screen by the non-stop action, initial introductions of the Original Series
    characters in this alternate timeline (which is so stated and explained
    within the movie itself). This is one of those extremely rare movies that we
    enjoyed so much that we will go back to the theatre AGAIN...

    In my opinion, this movie is a sequel AND a reboot. Leonard Nimoy's Spock
    brings with him the knowledge and memories of the original timeline to the
    altered timeline counterparts of his crew. Because events in this movie are
    indeed in contradiction to established canon, but established canon is
    acknowledged, and at the end Nimoy's Spock is still a part of this new
    timeline, both timelines logically must be intact. Who is to say that the
    event that began this movie did not begin in a parellel universe (a la
    "Mirror Mirror")?

    Be logical, people. Enjoy the movie for what it is: a return to the Original
    cast and crew to find themselves and become the team they are destined to
    be... but in their OWN timeline and/or parallel universe.
     
  13. jazzstick

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    True but it still seemed forced! But then again your mileage may vary too!
     
  14. mysticgeek

    mysticgeek Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    You completely miss my sarcasm
     
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  15. Coloratura

    Coloratura Snuggle Princess Premium Member

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    To be fair, I was also extremely excited to see Spock on the big screen. Nemesis had been my first Star Trek movie that I had seen in the theater (I've been a huge fan since I was 4, but always missed the movies while they were in theaters). So for me, it was just epic, epic, epic.

    J.
     
  16. mysticgeek

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    Yes Nimoy's performance was very forced and didn't fit in well imho
     
  17. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Or was unimpressed by it.
     
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  18. Aragorn

    Aragorn Admiral Admiral

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    Voyager was Trek Lite and the only reason it lasted seven seasons was because it was on UPN's first seven seasons of existence. If Enterprise had come first, it would've lasted seven seasons and Voyager four.
     
  19. pookha

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    that they could act and capture the essence of the characters..

    no that couldnt be it.:devil:
     
  20. mysticgeek

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    or frightened by it. Or void of all emotion over it.
     
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