The Menagerie II Deleted Scene

[Methuselah Flint]

Does anyone know if this deleted scene from The Menagerie II is on the Roddenberry Vault? :

http://www.startrek.com/article/lost-trek-history-the-menagerie

Thanks!

 

[Warped9]

Interesting if it's in the new founf footage, but I can see why it was cut given it doesn't add nything of value.

 

[Grant]

I sure hope they found it and include it in the Vault. Any new footage of McCoy is well worth seeing!

And scenes were cut from TOS because they had to be an exact run time. A lot of good interesting stuff was cut because the episodes had to be 49 minutes and so many seconds.

 

[Michael]

No, I can confirm that that footage is not included in the Vault set.

 

[diankra]

I sure hope they found it and include it in the Vault. Any new footage of McCoy is well worth seeing!

And scenes were cut from TOS because they had to be an exact run time. A lot of good interesting stuff was cut because the episodes had to be 49 minutes and so many seconds.

Also, McCoy and Scotty don't appear in the final version of Menagerie 2. As both actors were 'guest players' in season one, dropping their only scene would presumably save their episodic payments (though they would presumably get their day-rate for the shoot - unless the scene was shot with their material for part 1?).

 

[Green]

The entire framing sequence was considered one episode. That was the point. Film one episode that could be used for two weeks worth of airings. The director of the framing sequence was given credit for part one and the Cage director was given credit for part two -- since the majority of part one was the framing sequence and the majority of part two was Pike's story. If they were going to pay everyone from the framing sequence a salary for two episodes then the cost savings would have been less.

 

[Timo]

...Plotwise, it's more satisfactory that the ship returns to hero control by "magical"/Talosian means than through the efforts of the heroes themselves. It stretches credibility already that Spock could effect a lock-out that forces the ship to go to Talos (as opposed to a lock-out that, say, stops the ship from going anywhere), and that the heroes couldn't, say, just stall the ship somehow when the alternative is to face execution. If we plead hero disinterest (because fake Mendez, Talosian mind control at work, etc.) rather than frantic but failing hero efforts, that actually makes the heroes look more competent.

Plus, thankfully, that's one more reference to "tapes" omitted from the fantastic future world of technological miracles.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[telerites]

C'mon you brainy Vulcan, latex gloves, dude