the literature/sources that "Alien" (1979) borrowed from

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  1. jefferiestubes8

    jefferiestubes8 Commodore Commodore

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    Ridley Scott's horror film set in space Alien in 1979 was a great horror film and also a good scifi film.
    Where did this story come from?

    The Alien wikipedia entry at least mentions:
    Very interesting. Just finding this out.
    http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=4&threadID=15550&archive=1#

    http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=4&threadID=15550&archive=1

    Agatha Christie's And Then There Were None plot:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Then_There_Were_None


    going into detail:
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    http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=4&threadID=15550&archive=1#
     
  2. Professor Zoom

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    I've read Voyage of the Space Beagle. Good fun.

    I'm surprised you haven't mentioned Dark Star. I would say it had the most influence on Alien. O'Bannon was IN it, wrote it... and has said the Beach Ball with Claws sequence led to it Alien...
     
  3. Asbo Zaprudder

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    I suspect O'Bannon was exposed to many of the stories in his youth and although he didn't consciously recall reading or seeing them, his subconscious dredged them up when he was writing Dark Star and later Alien. If I recall correctly from the introduction to the novelisation of Alien, he states Joseph Conrad as an influence - hence the name "Nostromo" - but I don't really see much of a connection other than that.

    ETA: Alan Dean Foster wrote the novel so my memory is probably not too hot either.
     
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  4. Admiral Buzzkill

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    That O'Bannon lifted a lot of stuff from It! was pretty widely accepted as true back in the first years following the release of Alien, which seems to be one reason he tended to get his back up when his general lack of originality was challenged.
     
  5. newtontomato539

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    I read on another thread the 23OO AD table top role-playing game was a source.
     
  6. jefferiestubes8

    jefferiestubes8 Commodore Commodore

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    Mario Bava's Planet of the Vampires.

    source

    wiki
     
  7. MacLeod

    MacLeod Admiral Admiral

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    There are very few original ideas these days, just reowrking of old ideas and themes.
     
  8. Lonemagpie

    Lonemagpie Writer Admiral

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    Dan used to say outright "I didn't steal Alien from this story or that source; I stole it from *everywhere*"
     
  9. MacLeod

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    How many stories have we seen//read about a group of peole being trapped somewhere where they are being hunted by something/someone?
     
  10. DarthTom

    DarthTom Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    OBannon isn't the only person with this problem. Rowling seemed to have a similar one:

    Only the Bible outsells Harry Potter and had the ancient Greek's been able to copyright their material throughout the mellenia - no one would be writing anything original - including the folks who wrote the bible who stole the same concepts and ideas right out of Greek Mythology.



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  11. jefferiestubes8

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    what would happen if Hollywood made a film adaptation of
    Van Vogt's novel The Voyage of the Space Beagle incorporated these two stories along with others.

    Would everyone just call it a Alien ripoff?
     
  12. Kegg

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    I recall something on the Alien DVDs where O'Bannon cheerfully acknowledges a kind of Lovecraftian influence on the alien monster. Certainly, Geiger, who designed the Alien, was a fan of Lovecraft (he had an art book titled the Necromonicon).
     

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