The least disliked episode of VOY - Season Three

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by BlueStuff, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. BlueStuff

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    This is a game that was played here a couple of years ago, and it proved to be a lot of fun, spanning across each Trek series, as well as a great way to mentally revisit those episodes you may not have thought about in a while. With that in mind, why not play again?

    So, here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your least favorite or the one you deem the 'worst.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.

    No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode because you feel they would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win.
    Pretty simple. Enjoy! :bolian:

    Winners
    The Original Series - Balance of Terror
    The Next Generation - The Measure of a Man
    Deep Space Nine - In the Pale Moonlight
    Voyager -

    Season One - Phage
    Season Two - Death Wish
    Season Three -

    Basics (II)
    Flashback
    The Chute
    The Swarm
    False Profits
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Warlord
    The Q and the Grey
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Favorite Son
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  2. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I will do the honor of eliminating False Profits, for being the worst episode in Star Trek history.

    It's pure fail in every imaginable way. Besides being a 'Voyager screws up another chance to get home' episode, they only fail because they locked up the Ferengi in a cell with no security and put no security anywhere near their ship. It also features the stupidest sentient creatures in the Star Trek universe, and their prime directive excuse for why they couldn't just take the Ferengi away and explain to them they'd been DUPED was absurd.

    Although with the stupidity level of this local population (WINGS OF FIRE! WINGS OF FIRE!), without the Ferengi they probably died of exposure within a week for failure to dress themselves in the morning.

    Basics (II)
    Flashback
    The Chute
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Warlord
    The Q and the Grey
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Favorite Son
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  3. jimbotron

    jimbotron Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I remarked that Death Wish was the best Q episode in Voyager. Q and the Grey, on the other hand, is really bad. The Q are having a civil war. Therefore it will look like the American Civil War. Clever.

    The Q go to war because Quinn killed himself? So it's a no-no for Q to commit suicide, but execution (True Q) is perfectly acceptable. Uh huh.

    And what a waste of Suzie Plakson. Though she gets to call Janeway a dog (let's just assume she really would have said bitch), which was awesome. :lol:

    Basics (II)
    Flashback
    The Chute
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Warlord
    Macrocosm
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Favorite Son
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  4. R. Star

    R. Star Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Macrocosm... macro virus... micro plot.

    Basics (II)
    Flashback
    The Chute
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Warlord
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Favorite Son
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  5. Bry_Sinclair

    Bry_Sinclair Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I remove The Chute, a terrible "buddy episode" for Paris/Kim.

    Basics (II)
    Flashback
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Warlord
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Favorite Son
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  6. DevilEyes

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    Basics (II)
    Flashback
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Warlord
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)


    Favorite Son - another awful Kim episode, another awful Kim-having-love-interests episode, and another episode where people's DNA changes (?!) :vulcan:
     
  7. Dream

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    Goodbye Flashback. The repressed memory virus plot was garbage, should have just time traveled if they wanted to revisit TUC so badly.

    Basics (II)
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Warlord
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  8. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Alter Ego was a very dull episode.

    Basics (II)
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Sacred Ground
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Warlord
    Fair Trade
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  9. KaraBear

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    I'm taking out Sacred Ground. I would have just left Kes in the coma

    Basics (II)
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Warlord
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Displaced
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  10. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I will eliminate Displaced because it just took too many contrivances.

    Their crew is gradually being replaced and they don't suspect until there are only a few people left that this is something intentional? And nobody ever tries to program the ship to beam away any new person who appears or lock down the corridors with forcefields? How'd they get the command codes anyway? And then they manage to get them to give up their whole operation by holding two people hostage?

    Points for actually using Chakotay well for once, but among a mediocre season, the problems stand out the most to me.

    Basics (II)
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Warlord
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  11. KaraBear

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    I'm taking out Warlord. Too big of a part of Jennifer Lien to handle. She came accross to me as a little girl playing dressup in her mother's clothes

    Basics (II)
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Fair Trade
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  12. Bry_Sinclair

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    Goodbye "Fair Trade". I disliked Neelix so didn't want to learn anything about him or his past. Besides, if he didn't know space ahead, why not just say? He wasn't about to be hung, drawn and quartered for his lack of knowledge (unfortunately).

    Basics (II)
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Alter Ego
    Coda
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)

    There are another six episodes I could happily cut right now without a second thought, but guess that'll have to wait.
     
  13. teya

    teya Vice Admiral Admiral

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    "Coda": a waste of a terrific guest actor. And Beltran over-emoting. Wooden is better in his case.



    Basics (II)
    The Swarm
    Remember
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Alter Ego
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  14. Melakon

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    I mentioned this not long ago, but "Remember" was so unmemorable, I can never remember what it was about.

    Basics (II)
    The Swarm
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Alter Ego
    Blood Fever
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  15. jimbotron

    jimbotron Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Blood Fever - so Klingons get Pon Farr too? Vorik fights B'Elanna to the death for the right to mate with .... B'Elanna. Apparently that's within Vulcan law, which Tuvok confirms. But hey, this show has made much larger leaps in logic before, so this is small potatoes.

    Basics (II)
    The Swarm
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Alter Ego
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Before and After
    Distant Origin
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  16. KaraBear

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    I'm taking out Before and After, since it never really happened anyway


    Basics (II)
    The Swarm
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Alter Ego
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Distant Origin
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  17. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I eliminate Distant Origin, because the premise was stupid, and if they were going to introduce a race like that it should have had actual ramifications in future episodes.

    Basics (II)
    The Swarm
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Alter Ego
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  18. MacLeod

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    "The Swarm", So much for respecting other races right to not have people enter their space.

    Basics (II)
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Alter Ego
    Unity
    Darkling
    Rise
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  19. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I removed Alter Ego a while ago but it got added back in, so I've corrected the list. I'll also remove Rise, which I'm surprised got so far. It's terrible.

    Basics (II)
    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Unity
    Darkling
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)
     
  20. teya

    teya Vice Admiral Admiral

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    "Darkling." All for the love of Kes. Ugh.

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    Future's End (I)
    Future's End (II)
    Unity
    Worst Case Scenario
    Scorpion (I)