The least disliked episode of TNG - Season Four

Discussion in 'The Next Generation' started by MikeS, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. MikeS

    MikeS Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    As I missed the last season through being on a different timezone I hope nobody minds me starting this...

    This is a game that was played here a couple of years ago, and it proved to be a lot of fun, spanning across each Trek series, as well as a great way to mentally revisit those episodes you may not have thought about in a while. With that in mind, why not play again?

    So, here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your least favorite or the one you deem the 'worst.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode. Pretty simple. Enjoy! :bolian:

    Winners
    Season One - Heart of Glory
    Season Two - Q Who?
    Season Three - Deja Q

    The Best of Both Worlds, part II
    Family
    Brothers
    Suddenly Human
    Remember Me
    Legacy
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    The Loss
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Devil's Due
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Night Terrors
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Qpid
    Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption
     
  2. MikeS

    MikeS Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I'm going to be controversial and remove The Best of Both Worlds II first. This is simply because I felt the conclusion was a bit of a let down. You can tell that it was written seperately from part one and Piller was obviously being truthful when he said he had no idea how to end it. I found it unforgivable to simply demote Riker (after having saved the Federation) with no explanation. I know we got the excellent Family as some sort of continuation, but they could have done so much more with this as a series-changing episode, (have Picard become a Commodore, whatever, plenty of discussion on this forum about wasted opportunities) instead they tried to wrap it up neatly as another "episode of the week".

    Family
    Brothers
    Suddenly Human
    Remember Me
    Legacy
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    The Loss
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Devil's Due
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Night Terrors
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Qpid
    Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption
     
  3. Bry_Sinclair

    Bry_Sinclair Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Have to agree. TBoBW2 could have been truely amazing, but it was just good, not living up to Part 1.

    As for me, I vote off Qpid. I hate Q episodes and the whole Robin Hood thing was just cringe worthy.

    Family
    Brothers
    Suddenly Human
    Remember Me
    Legacy
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    The Loss
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Devil's Due
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Night Terrors
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption
     
  4. Mario de Monti

    Mario de Monti Captain Captain

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    Wow, two great episodes ditched already - I´m stunned!

    I´ll drop "The Loss". Deanna can be annoying enough as it is, I don´t need a whole episode of her crying and complaining.

    Family
    Brothers
    Suddenly Human
    Remember Me
    Legacy
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Devil's Due
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Night Terrors
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption
     
  5. R. Star

    R. Star Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Legacy... sorry, but a Tasha Yar wasn't that interesting to dedicate a whole episode to her corrupt sister and Data. And why is a former Earth colony allowed to apparently secede and sink this low again?

    Family
    Brothers
    Suddenly Human
    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Devil's Due
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Night Terrors
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption
     
  6. dodge

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    Away with Devil's Due.

    Why on earth they went with an unnecessary reworking of a Phase II script when at the time they had a stellar group of staff writers in their prime and no strikes going on I'll never understand...

    Family
    Brothers
    Suddenly Human
    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Night Terrors
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption
     
  7. jimbotron

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    Night Terrors go BOOM. I like the premise of everyone being exhausted and beginning to hallucinate. However, Troi in that purple dream void - that was just awful. They should have thought of something more abstract and interesting for those dream sequences. Data's dreams in Phantasms, something like that.

    Family
    Brothers
    Suddenly Human
    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Clues
    First Contact
    Galaxy's Child
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption
     
  8. Chensams

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    Galaxy's Child. Cringe worthy LaForge episode.

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    Suddenly Human
    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Clues
    First Contact
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Drumhead
    Half a Life
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption
     
  9. MickJo1701

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    Its definitely between The Host and Half a Life, I find both unwatchable, torrid episodes. Half a Life wins by a nose.

    Family
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    Suddenly Human
    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Clues
    First Contact
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Drumhead
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption
     
  10. BlueStuff

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    I'll give the axe to Suddenly Human for the non-engaging storyline and relatively annoying character of Jono.

    Family
    Brothers
    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Clues
    First Contact
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Drumhead
    The Host
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (I)
     
  11. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Commodore Commodore

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    I'll get rid of The Host, for being as dull as dishwater.

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    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Clues
    First Contact
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Drumhead
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (I)
     
  12. LOKAI of CHERON

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    First Contact is gone. I always found this episode a little silly - and not in an endearing way.

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    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    Data's Day
    The Wounded
    Clues
    Identity Crisis
    Nth Degree
    Drumhead
    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (I)
     
  13. BlueStuff

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    The riff raff has largely been dealt with, so I'll end Data's Day. Fun, but in this competition, fun don't cut it.

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    Final Mission
    The Wounded
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  14. Third Nacelle

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    Two of my top ten favorite episodes of the entire franchise were just eliminated :(

    I'm getting rid of Identity Crisis. It's boring, it's scientific premise doesn't hold water, and something about that guest actress bothers me.

    Family
    Brothers
    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    The Wounded
    Clues
    Nth Degree
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    The Mind's Eye
    In Theory
    Redemption (I)
     
  15. CmndrSela318

    CmndrSela318 Trek BBS Member 318 Premium Member

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    Well, there goes my favorite. OK I'll remove what I consider the most boring episode of season 4.
    I hereby remove The Mind's Eye.

    Family
    Brothers
    Remember Me
    Reunion
    Future Imperfect
    Final Mission
    The Wounded
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    Nth Degree
    Drumhead
    In Theory
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  16. Chensams

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    Down to some good ones. Remember Me was never one of my favorites.

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    Clues
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  17. R. Star

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    Dang Sela, you cut Yesterday's Enterprise in last season and the Mind's Eye in this one. You don't seem to like the episodes that foreshadow your name and avatar. :p

    But back on track... Final Mission. Yet another yawn inducing Picard and Wesley bonding episode coupled with a buzzer Wesley Saves the Day.

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  18. Third Nacelle

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    I'll have to eliminate The Wounded. I know that this was an important episode introducing us to the Cardassians and O'Brien's (inconsistent) background, and it started laying the foundation for DS9.... but I just thought it was dull.

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  19. jimbotron

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    In Theory. Data's romance plot was cringeworthy, and I didn't find the love interest character likable at all.

    Though the security officer being embedded in the floor with blood running from her nose - that was awesome. :lol:

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  20. CmndrSela318

    CmndrSela318 Trek BBS Member 318 Premium Member

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    Sela is the only good thing to come from Yesterday's Enterprise. Otherwise Yesterday's Enterprise was too dark for my taste. The Mind's Eye is boring. Plus they never show Sela. You just hear her voice and see her silhouette.

    Now back to the thread.
    I'm removing Future Imperfect because it was just...there. I can't find a word to describe it.

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