The least disliked episode of DS9 - Final Round

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by BlueStuff, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I think I'm ready to vote for Emissary now. I loved it on first viewing and still do, I think it is the best pilot of all the series'. But the other episodes are excellent and in the first episode, we're obviously still getting to know the characters, some of whom are not initially all that well drawn out. I also thought the Prophet scenes were just a little overlong.

    Emissary - 2
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  2. Bad Thoughts

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    Necessary Evil: Like Emissary, the characters weren't well developed at this point. however, I found Odo particularly problematic.

    Emissary - 2
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 1
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0[/quote]
     
  3. MacLeod

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    "Emissary" as I voted for it last time and it's still in.

    Emissary - 3
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 1
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  4. Roboturner913

    Roboturner913 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Necessary Evil again. Hopefully people wise up to this "getting rid of Emissary" nonsense.

    Emissary - 3
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 2
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  5. R. Star

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    What he said. Necessary Evil. Good episode, but the characters are kinda two dimensional.

    Emissary - 3
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 3
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  6. 4Cardassia

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    I'm in shock that "Necessary Evil" is on the chopping block so soon. I'll have to go with "Emissary". It is without doubt the best of the Star Trek pilots and sets up the show's characters, premise, and storylines with surprising skill. The episode is even more enjoyable upon rewatch, after experiencing the entire show. You can see the beginnings of the beautiful character arcs and relationships that will define the series. However, it does have some strange line delivery on the part of Avery Brooks and some of the other characters' makeup and performances seem to be in need of refinement. It's also a shame that the producers felt the need to insert that ugly exposition crawl at the beginning of the episode.
    Sorry "Emissary". I really do love you :(. This is really tough!

    Emissary - 4
    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 3
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
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  7. MacLeod

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    Scores are back to zero, and it's getting even tougher now. All are strong episodes. But in this round it has to be Necessary Evil. It's a great episode, better than "Emissary" but not as good as the rest.

    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 1
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  8. Bad Thoughts

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    Necessary Evil: my opinion hasn't changed in the last hour.

    The Wire - 0
    Necessary Evil - 2
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  9. Seven of Five

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    Haha. I love Necessary Evil, so I'm voting for The Wire, which I also love.

    The Wire - 1
    Necessary Evil - 2
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  10. R. Star

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    What he said. I'm being original today. For what it's worth, if NE had been eliminated, I'd probably be voting for Emissary right now. ;)

    The Wire - 1
    Necessary Evil - 3
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 0
     
  11. MacLeod

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    ^It looks like it might be just a small matter of preferrence that seperate NE and Emissary then.
     
  12. brianbeercan

    brianbeercan Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I'll eliminate Necessary Evil. It's probably the one episode left I wouldn't place in my top 20.

    Reset the scores and voted for Tacking in the Wind. It's great and everything, but it's placement in the final arc makes it hard for me to think of it as an episode - I have trouble remembering which events happen in which episodes at that point.

    The Wire - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 0
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 1
     
  13. Bad Thoughts

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    Purgatory's Shadow: There are too many Garak vehicles on this list, and this is the weakest, a pale imitation of Improbable Cause.

    The Wire - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 0
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 1
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 1
     
  14. MacLeod

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    FOr me it's got to be the "The Visitor". Sure it's a good episode but I was more enaged by the other episodes. I was also a fan of some of the other characters than the Sisko's

    The Wire - 0
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 1
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 1
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 1
     
  15. Seven of Five

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    I'll go for The Wire again. Same reasons as before.

    The Wire - 1
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 1
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 1
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 0
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 1
     
  16. MacLeod

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    Why Do I get the feeling from here on in the voting might be a little less decisive where as before we had one or two clear episodes in contention for elimination.
     
  17. R. Star

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    ^

    Because you're right. I'll add another "1" with Sacrifice of Angels. Didn't much care for how quickly and suddenly the occupation arc concluded.

    The Wire - 1
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 1
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 1
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 1
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 1
     
  18. JirinPanthosa

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    I vote The Wire.

    Because every single other episode on the list is on the shortlist of best episodes in the series, and The Wire is just a good Garak ep.

    The Wire - 2
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 1
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 1
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 1
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 1
     
  19. jimbotron

    jimbotron Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    ^I agree. Another vote for The Wire.

    The Wire - 3
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 1
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 1
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 1
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 1
     
  20. IzzyAtWarp9

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    I vote the visitor because I just found it slightly disturbing


    The Wire - 3
    The Die is Cast - 0
    Improbable Cause - 0
    The Visitor - 2
    In Purgatory's Shadow - 1
    By Inferno's Light - 0
    In the Pale Moonlight - 0
    Sacrifice of Angels - 1
    What You Leave Behind - 0
    Tacking into the Wind - 1