The hate at "Genesis"

Discussion in 'The Next Generation' started by MikeS, Sep 9, 2013.

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What is wrong with "Genesis"?

  1. It's science is flawed - (d)evolution doesn't work like that

    22.6%
  2. I am a creationist - (d)evolution is a falsehood

    3.2%
  3. It is simply a rubbish episode

    21.0%
  4. I love it

    53.2%
  1. MikeS

    MikeS Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I've seen alot of hate for this episode around these boards. I don't get it - I've always considered it a scientifically flawed but fun romp in an otherwise dull final season for TNG (they deserved much better). Can you help me understand why by voting and commenting. :bolian:

    (I realise the poll options aren't mutally exclusive but vote for what most closely fits your view. Cheers!)
     
  2. Bry_Sinclair

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    I love "Genesis".

    Ok the science may be a little far-fetched, but this is on a series where they travel at faster-than-light velocity and utilise transports--it's meant to be fun and enjoyable to watch.
     
  3. C_Miller

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    I don't love the episode, but I don't hate it. It scared the crap out of my seven year old self when it first aired. I couldn't watch it until many years later. So for that, it kind of does have a special place in my memory.
     
  4. Trek Survivor

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    I love this episode. Like most Trek, the science behind it is a little silly but guess what? Trek is science FICTION.

    As fiction, this ep is a lot of fun.
     
  5. JarodRussell

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    I like Genesis, don't care about the science in it.

    I don't think that in any episode the concept of evolution has been used correctly. There is no path forwards or backwards, you cannot suddenly evolve or de-evolve.
     
  6. BillJ

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    My wife loves it.

    I really don't. Though my thoughts on in may be colored by the fact I was pretty burnt out on TNG at that point (definitely a show kept on well past its "best by" date).
     
  7. Chensams

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    I always thought it was hokey, especially the science part.
     
  8. jpv2000

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    I am a Christian so I went with the creationist option.

    But, that is not why I didn't like the episode. I've loved a lot of stories that dealt with evolution before. This episode just carried the wacky science too far and failed to impress me.
     
  9. R. Star

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    Hey... at least there weren't wacky salamander children in it.
     
  10. jimbotron

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    That's two stupid episodes by Braga involving dubious de-evolution.
     
  11. R. Star

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    Braga was always weak on science or even technobabble resembling science. He's at his best when he's writing episodes that screw with your head.
     
  12. sariel2005

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    on Blip Sfdebris has a review that points out the many varied problems with the episode in his Opinionated reviews.

    Makes some good points both on the bad science and the structuring of the episode.
     
  13. Melakon

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    The Barclay spider was a nice echo of Al (David) Hedison in "The Fly".
     
  14. Harvey

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    It's high concept fantasy, which doesn't fit everyone's conception of what Star Trek is (or should be), but I love it. It's certainly a terrific showcase for Michael Westmore's talents.
     
  15. MickJo1701

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    I'm in the same boat, I was 6 when I first saw it and was bloody terrified :lol:

    If you can overlook the blatantly obvious science issues its a good way to kill 45 minutes.
     
  16. Makarov

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    It's a fun episode that manages to be scary/creepy, without screwing with canon stuff like that voyager salamander ep. I like it.
     
  17. sariel2005

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    Although they screwed with canon a couple of episodes earlier when they changed Spot into a female in preparation for the episode :techman:
     
  18. R. Star

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    Well, I always figured Spot was female because of those lines and the rest was just... miscasting. ;)
     
  19. MikeS

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    Do you have a link? :)
     
  20. sariel2005

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    sariel2005 wrote: [​IMG]
    on Blip Sfdebris has a review that points out the many varied problems with the episode in his Opinionated reviews.

    Makes some good points both on the bad science and the structuring of the episode.

    Do you have a link? :)

    http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/t271.asp