"The Fall" books - Where exactly do they fit? (No spoilers please)

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by theblitz, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. theblitz

    theblitz Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2011
    Location:
    Israel
  2. RoB

    RoB Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2006
    The "Fall" series is set in 2385, so it takes place after "Raise the Dawn" and "Brinkmanship".
     
  3. theblitz

    theblitz Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2011
    Location:
    Israel
    Thanks.
    Means I can wait a bit and get it cheap. :)
     
  4. Ktrek

    Ktrek Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2003
    Or you could buy them now and help the authors who write these stories make a living and continue to write Star Trek books. Just a thought. :vulcan:

    Kevin
     
  5. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2001
    Not everyone lives in financial luxury. As long as someone isn't talking about reading the book in an illegal manner, why judge?
     
  6. ryan123450

    ryan123450 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2005
    Location:
    Woodward, OK
    I've always got updated reading order lists on my site, which you'll find in my sig.
     
  7. dansigal

    dansigal Captain Captain

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2013
    I try to mix it up as best I can. I can't afford to buy all the books new, but at the same time, I want to encourage more books to be written and make sure the authors make out as best they can. So I'll buy some of the new books even though I'm not even close to being caught up in the current continuity.
     
  8. theblitz

    theblitz Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2011
    Location:
    Israel
    I tend to buy all my books second hand on Amazon except in very are cases.

    I know that the money doesn't go directly to the author but it gives money back to the seller who will then buy other books.
    Many buyers take into account the fact that they will get something back for the book when they have finished reading it.

    There is no way I would have been able to afford buying 40 or so books I have bought over the past year and a half if I paid full price.
     
  9. Sci

    Sci Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2002
    Location:
    Montgomery County, State of Maryland
    Glad to see my list is so helpful to you!

    If I may make a suggestion for some books to read before you get to The Fall:

    Even though it is undoubtedly a TNG novel, you may want to pick up David Mack's Silent Weapons, the second book in his Cold Equations trilogy. It follows up on important plot arcs from Zero Sum Game and Plagues/Raise (which are DSN books in all but name), and features an event that's an important counterpoint to the events of The Fall. And, heck, if you like it, you might as well pick up Books I and III -- The Persistence of Memory and The Body Electric -- just for enjoyment. (The main plot of each Cold Equations novel is standalone.)

    You may also want to consider reading the following novels:

    - A Time to Kill by David Mack (TNG, 2004)
    - A Time to Heal by David Mack (TNG, 2004)
    - A Time for War, A Time for Peace by Keith R.A. DeCandido (TNG, 2004)
    - Articles of the Federation by Keith R.A. DeCandido (Multi-series, 2005)

    This set constitutes a distinct arc. I recommend them because I suspect -- but do not know for sure -- that The Fall may follow up on the events of this arc. (Also, I love Articles -- who can help burt adore a Star Trek version of The West Wing?)

    So, if you've read up through Brinkmanship and you haven't already read the ones I listed above, my recommendation is to read in this order (star next to those I'm recommending purely for quality, not for direct plot relation to The Fall):

    - Brinkmanship by Una McCormack (2012)
    - A Time to Kill by David Mack (2004)
    - A Time to Heal by David Mack (2004)
    - A Time for War, A Time for Peace by Keith R.A. DeCandido (2004)
    - Articles of the Federation by Keith R.A. DeCandido (2005)
    - Cold Equations: The Persistence of Memory by David Mack (2012) *
    - Cold Equations: Silent Weapons by David Mack (2012)
    - Cold Equations: The Body Electric by David Mack (2012) *
    - The Fall: Revelation and Dust by David R. George III (2013)
    - The Fall: The Crimson Shadow by Una McCormack (2013)
    - The Fall: A Ceremony of Losses by David Mack (2013)
    - The Fall: The Poisoned Chalice by James Swallow (2013)
    - The Fall: Peaceable Kingdoms by Dayton Ward (2013)

    ETA: And if cost is an issue, I'd definitely check out your local library.
     
  10. theblitz

    theblitz Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2011
    Location:
    Israel
    WOW.
    That is a lot to read.
    Took me a year to get through 26 books (all the DS9 relaunch, Mirror Universe plus the supporting stories).
    At 2 weeks a book I think it will be some time til I get to these.

    The cost is not the end of the world.
    I get them on Amazon at about $2.80 a shot including postage.
    Local library would probably not help that much. I live in Israel and I doubt they stock them.

    Sometimes I feel like the kid in school who hasn't done his homework for a few weeks and now has to do it all before end of term.
     
  11. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    ^You're certainly not required to read all those books first. Any given novel or miniseries is optimally designed to work as its own independent story. Heck, sometimes it can be worthwhile to read a later story first and then have your curiosity fired about what led up to it.
     
  12. theblitz

    theblitz Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2011
    Location:
    Israel
    I guess that by the time I finish Brinkmanship I can find out which books are required reading before The Fall.
     
  13. Sci

    Sci Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2002
    Location:
    Montgomery County, State of Maryland
    Absolutely! I'm suggesting what might be the most enjoyable reading order, not the only enjoyable reading order.

    Theblitz, if you'd rather just dive right on in to The Fall, you shouldn't feel like you can't. The first two are already out in the United States. None of this is required reading -- it's suggested only.
     
  14. ronny

    ronny Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2006
    Location:
    San Francisco, CA
    The only 24th century books I haven't read are SNW, Shatnerverse and a bunch of the old numbered TNG and Voy books so I think I'm ready.
     
  15. theblitz

    theblitz Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2011
    Location:
    Israel
    @Sci
    I think it would probably be best to to finish the Destiny and Typhon Pact books first. Especially since I have already bought them (though I might have to re-buy the Destiny trilogy if the guy that brings them for me can't find it).

    Plenty to read in the "Porcelain Reading Room".
     
  16. theblitz

    theblitz Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2011
    Location:
    Israel
    So, I had to re-buy the Destiny trilogy cos the guy who brings them for me lost it somewhere.
    Bought it new - just to make Ktrek happy. :)
    (Actaully, I bought it new cos I couldn't find a used one in good enough condition to make it worthwhile.)
     
  17. David Mack

    David Mack Writer Commodore

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2003
    Location:
    New York, NY
    I hope you bought the omnibus edition — it's less expensive than buying all three books separately.
     
  18. theblitz

    theblitz Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2011
    Location:
    Israel
    ^^^Yeah.
    The lost one was also the omnibus edition.
    At 700+ pages it's gonna be heavy.
     
  19. Stevil2001

    Stevil2001 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2001
    Location:
    2010
    Hey peeps, is The Fall in chronological order? Or is it like the earlier Typhon Pact stuff? Or is that all a mystery still?
     
  20. Mage

    Mage Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2007
    Not sure yet. A part of TCS is set before a big event in RaD. I asume that the other novels will all be set in chronological order.
     

Share This Page