The Doctor Who Schematics Thread

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  1. starsuperion

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    Okay, so up next is the Time Station, Zenobia.. though I would think it should be called the Trial Statio, since if you look at the size of it, and what it was used for was nothing more then a floating court room in space..

    and here is my first contribution to this thread..

    as you all know I took about 2 1/2 years researching the Tardis, each step getting closer to the science and theories. Well finally here it is.. the last design..

    I got a sweet little schematic in the works, and you guys are gonna love it..it is a new "who ship design", the Great Bow ship!

    plus a Rutan fighter is in the works as well. Stay tuned! and feel free to add your own schematics. :techman:


    EDIT: I decided to change this image to a plain version of the Tardis Schematic..down below I will be adding the variant image, which has the background watermark design, and the Tardis ship will have the Gallifreyan text markings on it as well.

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  2. Admiral_Young

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    Awesome...btw I flipped through the Tardis Handbook and it's got nothing on you dude. Any progress on the Doctor Who's Who? :)
     
  3. starsuperion

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    thanks man! what do you think of this new direction? It has a better style that is more inline with the feel of what a tardis is supposed to look like in its alternate dimension... should I remove that background image? is it too distracting?

    as for the who's who, I am reworking it..it will look way better..:techman:

    I still want to see that handbook though..
     
  4. Timofnine

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    Looking good! Don't remove the background image totally, fade it out more so it's more of a watermark like look...
     
  5. starsuperion

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    Thanks for the advice, Timofnine, I went ahead and just uploaded a plain version in place of the other, with the ship being plain as well.. (no Gallifreyan Text) But the Tardis IMHO should have Gallifreyan Text on it, which is kinda cool cause it reminds me of the new direction and addition of that text in the latest version of the ship.. plus it makes it look more ancient and uniquely time lord..:)

    (the lighted cover above the Tardis exit doors, the text etched into the ships console, and the sides of the console, etc..)

    anyhow, I faded the back ground on the new one, and will be uploading it soon..thanks again for the help! :techman:
     
  6. Psion

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    Wow! Is that scale correct? You're looking at over 2,000 kilometers in diameter?
     
  7. Admiral_Young

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    I agree with the advice given above...if these are Time Lord archives I think they should look weathered if possible.
     
  8. starsuperion

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    Yep, think about it this way, the main structure of the tardis is grown by using carbon fiber, then the massive work is done through robotic and matter conversion techniques.. this allows the Time Lords to manufacture a massive ship, which can hold the sum total knowledge of an entire sector of the Galaxy.. remember, as the Tardis lands on a planet, it creates a holodeck like environment, which is a duplicate of that world, thus the time lords are able to view and explore in safety and comfort within the ship itself..and then move forward in time to see how the society progresses.. I think they were banned from going past a certain point..like say normal Gallifreyan time zone..anyhow, yeah the Tardis is a massive ship, and it has to be because the ring like engines which force the time vortex into being have to be massive to control and move with such power it takes to do that..kinda like a hyperspace worm whole.. only the tardis is in it's own dimension..

    Honestly though, think of how big the explosion was that lit up the sky on earth in the recent 5th season of doctor who, episode "the Big Bang" and if the ship can generate that massive of an explosion, then think about the size of this ship's design and you can tell that it is a massive machine!


    duly noted, and applied to the art.. :)
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    for those who want a clean version, I did that as well..
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  9. Timofnine

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    This one, perfect! :bolian:
     
  10. Admiral_Young

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    Agreed with TimofNine. I'm starting to get eager to see the interior designs now...but one thing at a time!!! I'm curious about something though...I've been wondering about seeing the Doctor dressed in full Time Lord regalia what that'd look like. It'd be an interesting side project ;) I really hate not being able to draw.
     
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    Oh, I understand your rationalizations for the size, but I'm rather stunned by something this big. Sure, the TARDIS is bigger on the inside, but this thing dwarfs the moons of Mars. If this landed in Washington, DC, it's shadow would extend past Boston. That's really ... big.

    What do Timelords do with all that space? How many typically staff such a vehicle? I have to admit that I'm not familiar with this holodeck function you mention. Certainly, I don't recall the Doctor ever exploring anything in safety and comfort.

    Although, the TARDIS did tow Earth across the cosmos once. That's not exactly the job of something tiny ...
     
  12. starsuperion

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    Got it! I can use that back ground image for the rest of the ship. though I may change it and use gallifreyan text instead.. but the design behind it does convey how time travel is used..

    actually let's use this version.. with the time lord symbols in the backdrop..
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    I will be working on the interior stuff here soon, since I have finalized what the Tardis is in it's own Dimension. I must admit, it took me quite a while and a long ride through so many different designs to come up with what we now see in this thread. I went through so many configurations, I started to feel like Matt Jefferies, though I am NO where near the legend of a designer as he was.. God Rest his soul...

    anyhow, I have tons and tons of unused sketches, and digital designs, countless hours and studying the current hyperspace, 4th dimensional Tesseract theories, Doctor who theories and such, and so much more..

    this design is kinda like a giant centrifuge..the artificial black whole in the center of the ship, the rings above the center which draw the vortex inward and creates a wormhole of sorts through which the tardis can travel.. The rooms of the Tardis revolve in a clockwise direction and are modular and sections can move upwards and downwards, or shift according to the time lord's needs..which I also understand (this makes it so they don't have to walk all over the ship to get to certain areas.) I get it now! A very easy concept to grasp mentally...which I will convey in a future drawing.. so first will come that, those interior designs will follow and most likely will start with the Tardis engines, and various rooms, and computer cores, and so on.

    I have been studying classic who, and I have a grasp on their computer tech.. it seems as if the show eluded to their use of crystal technology..which makes sense, since it is highly capable of housing and processing tons of data, more so then the latest silicon processors..heck even the Kryptonians used that tech in Superman.. :techman:

    I have some designs in the works to showcase what Time lords wore during the days of chronicling other worlds, and star systems through time..I imagine much of their clothing has remained the same throughout time..but I do have some cool variants on the outfits we have seen.. since I am starting with the Type 40 ship, this thread can chronicle the use of that ship.. but by the doctor's time the Time lords have stopped mapping the universe, and use lesser tardis ships to explore, until the Time war, where the Tardis ships were much smaller.. I have uniforms for them.. oh yes, they are sweet!
     
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    With a ship as large as the tardis, there were 305 of them in use.. think of the massive amounts of data that the Timelords would need to gather..it seems like the Doctor knows every history and every alien language, this is due to the research done by previous time lords with their Tardis. the Ship's massive size allows them to retain knowledge and specimens, or technology gathered from countless worlds throughout the cosmos. But I do think I was premature in my initial scale.. I have since re-sized the images..when I first did it, I was using metres, when I switched to kilometres, I should have removed those extra zeros.. yeah no, the tardis is massive, and probably a bit larger then the 1st death star, but no more then that..at 124 miles in diameter, I can't see it needing to be larger then that.

    Our moon which measures 3,476 km way larger then the size of a Tardis.. I would think that a Tardis is the equivalent of a Deathstar from Star wars..no more then that though..sorry I should have double checked my work before I uploaded it..200 km is still a massive ship..the explosion and burning up of the Tardis engines would be so massive because of the massive amount of energy being exerted..

    The Time Lords would need a massive ship like that to map and log in the galaxy, which then ends up being dumped into the matrix, on Gallifrey.

    I would say a crew of a Tardis Typically housed about 2,000 Time Lords.. most were technicians, scientists, historians, and probably a few senators, or council assistants who oversaw the operations for the high council back on Gallifrey. 6 members were the operators who piloted the ship..with probably about 24 in reserve who could take over in shifts in other console rooms in other areas of the Tardis..with such a massive ship, it would be necessary for the ship to be modular to allow corridors, and rooms to shuffle to specific locations in the ship to assist those researchers who were working on projects. The Tardis would probably travel to a solar system, and spend time chronicling the history to present of the planets, moons, and anomalies in that system.

    A tardis would take specimens, examine, and study a planet, and then move on through time to the present day of Gallifrey (they were forbidden to go into their own future), and map, chronicle, record, study, analyze, and then leave those worlds, for other systems.. think of the 5 year mission of star trek but on a massive information gathering mission that spanned hundreds of years.. this explains a great deal as to why a time lord has the regeneration ability they do, and why the Tardis interior can shift and change.. once completed, the Time Lords would return to Gallifrey and deposit their gained knowledge into the most powerful computer in the universe, the Gallifrey matrix.

    I think that once a Time lord has been linked to a Tardis, his mind has a sort of access to this data in the Tardis Memory banks, which explains how they can recognize a species and specific dates and activities that occur..and recognize differences in the original time line..this would also explain how the languages are automatically translated, cause a Tardis houses a massive repository of the Matrix data regarding alien races.. sort of a portable space almanac..

    the Doctor does so in the comics and was mentioned quite a bit in the novels..., and it is never shown in the show, but, it does make sense that to preserve the first law of time, most time lords would never leave their ships while chronicling the life of a particular race, planet, or cosmic event..In the comic, it was Frobisher and Peri who got lost in the Tardis, and the 6th doctor has to find them before an invader to the tardis kills them. As the Doctor travels with Frobisher ( a shape shifter stuck in a peguin mode..) he shows Frobisher the computer data memory section, which houses multiple countless rooms which house holodeck versions of every various world the tardis has visited. which makes sense, when you think about what the Time Lords represent.. control and watchers of natural events of time..they wanted to know everything that happened in their universe from past to present and chronicle all of that to know everything about anything in the universe..the holodeck memory banks allowed the Time Lords to follow the first law of time, and never interfere with other races..the doctor doesn't use those memory banks, cause he gets involved, which makes sense that we wouldn't see those rooms in the tv series, unless a story were developed around that.

    this is true, however, the fact that the Tardis houses an artificial Black hole core at it's center cloister room makes it's own gravitational field which is powerful enough to hold objects and tow objects, even a rocket ship from another black hole.. but you are correct, the Tardis would have it's own gravitational force, in addition to the core.. I would presume a Tardis of the older classes like the Type 40 to the Type 80 were massive.. from 80 onward, they dropped off in size, cause by then, most time lords were not traversing the universe and gathering knowledge...

    they ended up not even leaving Gallifrey until the time war, at that time the Ships ended up way smaller, probably about 20 Kilometres in Diameter, instead of 2,000. Though that is still a large size, it does fit the narrative that the Tardis could map its exterior onto the interior design and impose its size on a dalek ship during the time war and those ships were about the size of huge asteroids,or a crater on our moon..
     
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  14. Admiral_Young

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    I really like the Gallyfrean symbols on the page....
     
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    I'm a bit more comfortable with the re-scale, although that's still immense -- but don't take that as a criticism; indeed, the sources you cite seem to demand something a bit larger than my expectations.

    I'm fascinated with this project of yours, although I admit that I preferred the previous version; it was graceful and beautiful in a suspension-bridge-meets-classical-Greek-column kind of way. On the other hand, the current effort appears more practical and probably a much better utilization of the available volume. And regardless of the layout, you keep turning out clean and finished artwork that belongs in a professionally bound and published volume.

    Honestly, I hope you keep coming up with new ideas for the TARDIS exterior for many years to come. Your Sysiphean toils will be the stuff of my personal joy every time I click on one of your threads.
     
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    I tell you what, I like it too..not to mention I am working on a Guide to the tardis, and using that and the image shown above for that digital book.. I will update the old thread with that once all of the book is finished.

    as for this thread, I wanted to do all the ships like they do int he star trek schematics thread, so from here on out, I am going to do other ships and they will be on plain white back drops..

    Be looking for the Rutan ships!:techman:

    yeah, but when you really think about it, it fits the goal and the needs of the ancient time lords who piloted a type 40 before the doctor got his hands on it.. you should really check out the comics from IDW, they truly show the Tardis in a way that makes you truly feel as if the ship is massive, and I suppose that is what a lot of us fans remember about the Marvel comics of the doctor..which is why most of the writers, and fans know instinctively that the Tardis is huge, beyond what the show has depicted.. though in the "invasion of Time" series, the 4th doctor is running scared from the Sontarans, and ends up leading his crew down into the Tardis, and remarks something about him being on the 24th level down..

    Yeah I know, but after all that I kept finding out, and reading, and learning, it came down to the Tardis needs to have a massive room section that is modular, and free, and spins clockwise, while a massive set of rings which bend space inward to the cloister and form the vortex and maybe even a worm hole of sorts, it's a part of the fact that the tardis travels in time, and space and well with everything I have seen, it just makes sense..the design now, makes much more sense.. the beauty of the original design was there, but not practical to what a Tardis truly is within it's own dimension..

    as much as I would like to keep redoing and redoing the design, I think that this model is probably the best yet.. however, let us remember that I will want to do schematics for the earlier models, which will have an arcane 1960's trek feel to it, with a more regal and steampunk look to it. :D

    I am sure the older models of the Tardis will have a Victorian style of it's own, especially the much touted and massive Type 7 (Rassilon's personal Tardis!), not to mention the cool design of a Prototardis..

    For now, if I can get the schematics for the original to stay put, the others should be easier to do... now that I have the main formula finalized as the Type 40, the others will come much easier, as the formula is pretty easy. the coolest thing will be to do the war Tardises in this new style, and showcase their weaponry..

    BTW

    as the Tardis jettisons it's rooms to gain extra thrust, it does so on the inside of the ring of rooms in the middle, they end up being shot directly into the swirling vortex which is produced just above the center of the ring on the top and bottom of the ship as it spins..if you can look at the design and imagine that..
     
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    In the newer design, the rooms that were cut loose would be dropping from the interior of the ring of rooms from the center of the tardis.. imagine that the center of the Tardis is open to the top and bottom of the ship where the Time vortex is drawn and exits the ship.. the rooms are in a revolving state. In the schematic below we see the Top section of the Tardis which shows the massive machine that manipulates the Time/space Vortex. Communications through the vortex, and materialization and re-materialization machines are located on the larger ring.. the rooms would have dropped from the top of the ship and bottom into the vortex, and would provide the extra power needed to thrust the ship out of a particular bad spot.. the overall look might show a few less rooms in a ring around the center of the ship, with the rings being much less in length, but still all connected for use..

    well with the current configuration, it would look just like it is, no change, only you see once the doctor jettisoned 25% of the ship, the tardis can reconfigure the rooms, by drawing matter from the vortex or space and creating new sections and adding them to the ring of rooms around the center of the machine..it does this by using the arton energy from the Artron Mainframe..the veins of life of any Tardis..remember how in season 1, "dalek" when Rose touched the Dalek and it began to repair itself, pushing the dented sensor ball on it's side out and back into shape by itself.. that is sort of how the rooms are reconfigured and sometimes built..

    the rooms are reconfigured through matter manipulation and can be moved by a complex gravity beam system which is used to shuffle rooms to different departments if needed.. due to the size of the tardis, it was necessary for the Time Lord researchers (cosmic Chronologists) to have access to certain experiment rooms without having to walk too far, being the ship was very massive, and was used for the purposes of categorizing entire star systems from their beginnings to the present day Gallifreyan time Line..

    Here is the Type 40 Tardis as seen within it's own Dimension:

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    this design shows how the ship retained a certain victorian old world style to it's design and housed an inferior communications array. the massive shield generators, and gravity beam system was adorned with a giant seal of Rassilon, and was one of the few ships he personally had a hand in the conception of before he was imprisoned in the tower of the death zone..In those days his seal was planted almost everywhere, as was that of Omega, who was once hailed for his legacy..

    actually again, it would remain the same.. the ship's interior section may change, but it basically ends up being a long road of blocks and corridors of rooms and decks..rings of which go around and around and wind downward till they reach the central core, which within that central section resides the power-source of the Tardis, a block matrix recreation of the eye of harmony from Gallifrey..

    when the Doctor's New Console room was constructed it was a new fresh room, which was then configured through matter transfer into the current console, using the brainwave pattern of the new doctor, the ship chose a design that it estimated fit the persona of the pilot best.. hence the look of the Tardis..they are psychically linked, and as such the Tardis takes on traits of the pilot in it's design..the older Tardis console rooms are still kept as part of the ship and are located in other various focal point spots (cradles) near the shield generators around the ship..

    Oh yes, I sure have much thought in the last 2 1/2 years of studying all the materials I could get my hands on, and try to compile that data, and style of the Time Lords into a machine I think would be the epitome of what a Tardis would look like in it's own dimension.. it has been a long road, but a road I would love to travel again..:techman: Thanks for taking the time to check out my progression to this stage.. it has been nerve racking for me, but I finally know what the ship should be like, and I am confident that no new designs outside of what i have placed here are necessary to define the ships..

    the basics are here.. massive rings which funnel the vortex through the gravity derived from the artificial eye of harmony, and the rooms which rotate in a clockwise direction around the center, which draw energy and act like a suction for particle flow.. theses rooms are jettisoned through the center of the ship into the tardis vortex pathway to produce additional thrust which is then used to force the ship out of problem areas, or speed the ship's travel through the vortex of time/space.. the shield generators, and gravity beam system holds the configuration in place and can be used to move sections of the ship to other areas if desired by the pilot

    at the top of the ship's ring are rooms, of those rooms is a console room which locks into place below the shield generators, and is the focal point which is the gateway to the normal universe of space..each room set in a cradle has access to the outside world.. some are secondary, and others are the primary console control rooms.. if you look at the scale of the ship you can get an idea of how many decks, levels and rooms there are on this ship, much more then a Federation starship would have..:techman:

    Here is the Type 80 Tardis as seen in it's own Dimension..

    Now the Type 80 Tardis would be the last series of ships to be built in the standard size of most Tardis ships, with the exception of the Proto-Tardis Type Zero, and the Type 7 Rassilon's personal behemoth Tardis, most ships were about the same size, and over the eons of time became more advanced as Time Lord technology surpassed the previous models..

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    Design Fun Fact: if the Default mode of this Type 80 Tardis looks familiar it is because it was a mode shown in the back story of issue #4 of the old Marvel comics Doctor who comic-book.

    it is important to note that not all Tardis Models were in use, some had only 1 ship built, and then a new model was done, some were only released in 5 ships.. most however were produced as a new line of ships after the first ones were assigned sectors of the Universe to chronicle through time..

    At the most Tardis ships topped out at 305, depending on the mass production capability and potential of the design..this however was not the case during the time war, where a thousand war Tardises were in use at a time..

    I hope your questions were answered Mark, and any other people reading this, if you have questions I can explain how this new design addresses certain things in the Tardis lore..

    up next a SIDRAT!
     
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    Starsuperion ... beautiful work again!

    I hope you forgive me for doodling over your graphics, but it's easier to discuss things if I point out the sections I'm talking about.

    I almost get the sense that the sections highlighted in gold below are intended to move:
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    As modules in the central core are added and jettisoned, do the upper and lower sections move up and down while the shield generators move in and out?

    I think this design is starting to inspire a sense of grace and beauty again. My only complaint is that the areas highlighted below in green seem to be too straight along the edges:

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    I've added a simple circle around the structure to indicate a possible field of force around the ship. The actual shape of this field can be anything and is probably more complicated as you've indicated in other illustrations. But I'm using a simple circle for discussing a design suggestion only. What if the edges of the upper and lower sections curved to follow the proposed field of force rather than sloped directly between a larger and smaller diameter structure? I'm a big proponent of form following function, and the lines of force of a magnetic field (for example) are beautiful curves. Any structure that followed such lines of force (presumably for some super-science purposes) would also reflect that beauty and bring to mind a technology melded with nature.

    Finally, I have one final image to throw out at you:

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    That cityscape is somewhat iconic. And I'm fascinated with the sphere surrounding the city. I wonder if the original intent was to make it reminiscent of a snow globe or Christmas ornament. It's just a wild idea intended as nothing more than brainstorming, and I'm in no way trying to tell you how to build your fleet, but what if TARDISes looked, in five dimensional space, like glittering Christmas ornaments with golden arches and crystalline spires?
     
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    Yes, those sections move outward, as the interior reassembles and spins into a new directed configuration by the orbs above and below, which are gravitational beams..I am glad you like the designs thus far..


    yes, the top rings do expand upwards on the top and downwards if on the bottom,but they don't separate just stretch outward via a telescopic "neck" of sorts connected to the center.. I may need to do a core shot which shows the center of the Tardis sans the rooms.....the reason the shield Generators move outward is to allow enough space (shield space expands) as the interior section is reconfigured..

    I see what you mean, and yeah when I first did the design I had this idea of the funnel ring having a smaller one on top, but the ultimate goal of this design was to mimic the look of a tower of sorts from a castle, and the molecular modification machine seen in season 3 of Doctor who.. which was technology given to Lazarus by the Master, which in MHO resembles a Tardis console and yet is somehow familiar.. like I wanted my ultimate Tardis designs to feel like that..but then again, the Time Lords are regal, and somewhat kingly in their manner and style.. so that is why I focused on a symbol of kingliness, and style.. a tower. but then again the funnel shape fits the theoretical assumptions of how a ship would bend space and create it's own wormhole or time tunnel vortex..

    here is a revised Tardis design with a better and more practical look..
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    practical as in it being larger on the top and the funnel gets smaller directing the warped space/time into a focused point near the center of the ship which forms the time vortex, and is fixated on a point in space/time.


    I did experiment with some aspects similar to what you suggest, however, the shielding that a Tardis maintains only encompasses the middle room sections, as the outer area funnel rings (Massive engines) are held in the dimension, while the interior is closer to the cloister core, and thus access to reality, and the turbulent Gravitational/temporal eddies that plague the cloister core section..

    ultimately the forcefield only encompasses the rooms section..

    But the dimensional forces and gravitational field that creates the time vortex looks something like this:
    this design is a mock up I am working on for my ultimate Guide to the Tardis..it is unfinished, but ultimately shows how the theory of the Tardis is presented.. being that the Tardis houses an artificial singularity as it's core, it is centered around what most science explains as wormholes, or time vortexes..since the ship exists in it's own dimension, it is able to fixate a point in space/time and use it's massive engines to move the ship throughout the cosmos..the reason the engines are so massive is because not only does the Tardis move the front door about the universe, the entire dimension that the Tardis rests in is also moved with that front door.. they are one and the same.. (hence relative dimensions as the inside is relative to the outside, and vice verse) that is why the central section of rooms is only shielded, because it is the only part of the ship exposed to our reality, and the engines are stationary in the dimension..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-Time
    http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2008/02/08/has-time-travel-finally-arrived_7071.jpg

    The 4th Dimensional Tesseract symbol shown in the diagram is making the point that the center of the box is the front door of the Tardis, as the rest of the structure around the box is the rest of the ship.. the focal point, or cradle in which the dimensionally linked console room is stored is the box shown around the shield generators of the silhouette shape in the center of the vortex.it is under the shield generators that the Tardis console room is stored, for greatest protection..any number of onsole rooms are left in a cradle section below those generators, and each can be accessed by the pilot..so not only does the doctor pilot his ship from that one cradled console room, he can move about the ship, and pilot older versions and alternate versions of the console room housed in that same cradled structure which is held separate from the rest of the core rooms,if need be the cradle can separate from the rest of the rooms section and those rooms can be jettisoned..the time lord engineers designed it that way to expell dangerous experiments, or forces in space that could effect the ship, or to provide thrust power if need be..
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    this is true, however you must consider that for practical reasons the Tardis would be mainly a funnel with a core, and the rooms with some scientific equipment added for data retrieval..and communication dishes, or advanced communication equipment.. the large curves would not look good on the Tardis.. It just would not need such things..though if you want to see a ship that has much more style, then wait till you see the Type 7, Rassilon's Huge Massive ship..the image above shows how the vortex flows through the ship and the ripples of energy and magnetic and gravitational forces that flow around the Tardis, in effect giving it a natural shielding from within it's own dimension, however, this does not protect it from damage from within, or it burning up, which is why it would last for such a long time, as the ship would burn up and not expand in it's own dimension, rather burst through to ours as pure flame... like we saw in the big bang episode..

    again, the design elements of the ship with the aspect of it looking like castle tower of sorts, until you look at it form the top.. the shield sections on this design move outward, and are not hinged, they just slide outward like drawers..

    [​IMG]

    that would be kinda cool.. but no, I think that the shield that protects the Citadel was a unique feature Rassilon preserved for the time lords base of operations only.. as to the nature of the Tardis designs and the look they now have evolved from.. let me give you the pinnacle of my research..

    the only ship we ever saw that showed what time lord technology would look like as a spaceship the time station Zenobia!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9w2P4_-Ggo
    ..based on that design, I was able to try to do something that carried that ship design spirit on to the Tardis so the space station and the time lord Tardises had the same feel..

    I think that you are making the same mistake I was initially and that was to interject too much style into a ship, which actually should not because it just wouldn't be practical or necessary..

    honestly though I think that with your questions you raised, It helped me refine the look of these ships, and I thank you for that..
    also in a way I took the ships engines and inverted them, so you could say that I took the doctor's advice and reversed the polarity..LOL
    :D
     
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  20. starsuperion

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    forgive me for one more indulgence psion..

    but, please, take a few moments and watch these clips from "Castrovalva"..
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9qxoc_castrovalva-part-3_shortfilms

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9r7pk_castrovalva-part-4_shortfilms

    and then
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvnKXOGYKM8

    it seems to me that the bulk of the Tardis should be rooms.. and levels and decks, and more rooms..maybe my earlier designs were too bulky, so what I have done is to increase the rooms, and the mass which consist mostly of rooms.. and only a light frame or exoskeleton exists around the structure to produce the rooms, maintain it's form, and direct the flow of space-time into the central core and form an access to a vortex..

    anyhow, the "architectural configuration" system is like I stated before, whereby the raw matter is farmed from subspace and or the vortex, and turned into rooms for use by the tardis... these structures are all controlled by the gravity beam system within the shielded area in the center of the tardis..I am going to have to rethink the type 80 design as well..

    anyhow, let me know what you think of this, which better fits the feel of what they try to convey in "Castrovalva"

    there are spaces between the rings of the ship, in the Side view

    [​IMG]

    By Jove, I think I got it! :techman:
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2010

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