The Doctor Who Mythos

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by The Mirrorball Man, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. Alidar Jarok

    Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Moderator

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    Well, it was my understanding that, while Silver Nemesis was the official anniversary episode, Remembrance was also intended to celebrate it.
     
  2. Christopher

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    Well, yes, of course it was celebrating the anniversary; I'm not saying it wasn't. I'm saying that "Silver Nemesis" was intended to be the primary anniversary episode, with "Remembrance" more secondary (kind of like how "The Name of the Doctor" has a lot of anniversary-year homages in it but "The Day of the Doctor" is the actual anniversary episode), but since the "secondary" celebration is by far the better and more apposite one, it's retroactively come to be considered the prinicipal one.
     
  3. Alidar Jarok

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    Sure. Either way, it doesn't really change my point that Coal Hill school isn't a recurring element of Doctor Who, all the other times it's mentioned is an homage instead.
     
  4. Captain_Amasov

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    Would the introduction of the TARDIS being "partly sentient" warrant a separate entry under the First Doctor? Also the TARDIS's power source, located beneath the console, as being something you shouldn't let "escape" as well? Both were mentioned in "The Edge of Destruction", and the latter sort of lead on into the new series with the Bad Wolf entity being created by the energy of the "Heart of the TARDIS" released from within the console.

    There's also this tumblr picture post about the reference to the heart of the TARDIS made by both the First and Ninth Doctors: http://unwillingadventurer.tumblr.com/post/38895851826/the-heart-of-the-tardis-edge-of-destruction
     
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  5. The Mirrorball Man

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    First Doctor
    The Doctor
    The TARDIS
    The TARDIS is sentient
    The TARDIS is obsolete
    The Doctor can't steer the TARDIS
    Chameleon circuit
    The Time Vortex
    Psychic powers
    Companions
    Susan
    Regeneration
    Daleks
    Cybermen
    Skaro
    Historicals

    Second Doctor
    Time Lords
    UNIT
    Sonic screwdriver
    Jelly babies
    The 500 year diary
    Ice Warriors
    The Great Intelligence
    Brigadier Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart

    Third Doctor
    Gallifrey
    Bessie & the Whomobile
    Venusian aikido
    The Master
    Omega
    Autons
    Silurians
    Sontarans
    Sarah Jane Smith
    Multi-Doctor stories

    Fourth Doctor
    Regeneration limits
    Gift of language
    K9
    Zygons
    Davros
    Rassilon
    The Matrix
    The Guardians of Time
    The Time Agency
    The Eye of Harmony
    The cloister bell

    Fifth Doctor
    Eternals
    Companions' private lives

    Sixth Doctor
    The Rani
    The Valeyard

    Seventh Doctor

    Eighth Doctor
    Romance

    Ninth Doctor
    The Time War
    Last of the Time Lords
    Psychic paper
    Vortex manipulator
    Deadlock seals
    Bad Wolf
    The Shadow Proclamation
    Captain Jack Harkness

    Tenth Doctor
    Fixed points in time
    Torchwood
    The Weeping Angels
    Oods
    Judoons
    River Song
    Christmas specials

    Eleventh Doctor
    The Doctor speaks with babies and animals
    The Silence
    The Paternoster Gang
    Trenzalore
    The War Doctor
    The Curator
    Kate Lethbridge-Stewart
     
  6. JoeZhang

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    How can you know that any of these will be used in the wider mythos? It is likely but surely too soon to tell? The Curator in particular seems a one-off bit of fanservice.
     
  7. The Mirrorball Man

    The Mirrorball Man Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I think some of these elements are part of the wider mythos whether they're used again or not. The Doctor can speak with babies and animals now, whether he does it again or not. The Silence is what forced him to go into exile for hundreds of years, a significant part of his life. The Paternoster Gang, I wager, will play at least a small part in the twelfth Doctor's life, which means it's as relevant as Torchwood. Trenzalore is where he dies. The existence of the War Doctor modified our perception of the Doctor's life, and so did the Curator, and yes, I'm betting that we're going to see Kate again.
     
  8. Green Lantern

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    How about Skaro's destruction of The Seventh Doctor and Half Human for The Eighth Doctor? Oh, and TARDIS can change desktop for Tenth Doctor (see Time Crash). No sonic screwdriver for Fifth Doctor?

    Also, I wouldn't say The Curator was a big thing in the 11th Doctors era.
     
  9. The Mirrorball Man

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    Excellent suggestions.

    The absence of a core concept is not really a core concept in itself, in my opinion.

    I included it because the existence of the Curator means that the Doctor finds a way to go beyond the regeneration limit and that he uses familiar faces for some of his future lives. It's a bit of a game changer.
     
  10. The Mirrorball Man

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    First Doctor
    The Doctor
    The TARDIS
    The TARDIS is sentient
    The TARDIS is obsolete
    The Doctor can't steer the TARDIS
    Chameleon circuit
    The Time Vortex
    Psychic powers
    Companions
    Susan
    Regeneration
    Daleks
    Cybermen
    Skaro
    Historicals

    Second Doctor
    Time Lords
    UNIT
    Sonic screwdriver
    Jelly babies
    The 500 year diary
    Ice Warriors
    The Great Intelligence
    Brigadier Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart

    Third Doctor
    Gallifrey
    Bessie & the Whomobile
    Venusian aikido
    The Master
    Omega
    Autons
    Silurians
    Sontarans
    Sarah Jane Smith
    Multi-Doctor stories

    Fourth Doctor
    Regeneration limits
    Gift of language
    K9
    Zygons
    Davros
    Rassilon
    The Matrix
    The Guardians of Time
    The Time Agency
    The Eye of Harmony
    The cloister bell

    Fifth Doctor
    Eternals
    Companions' private lives

    Sixth Doctor
    The Rani
    The Valeyard

    Seventh Doctor
    Skaro's destruction

    Eighth Doctor
    Romance
    Half-human

    Ninth Doctor
    The Time War
    Last of the Time Lords
    Psychic paper
    Vortex manipulator
    Deadlock seals
    Bad Wolf
    The Shadow Proclamation
    Captain Jack Harkness

    Tenth Doctor
    Fixed points in time
    Desktop themes
    Torchwood
    The Weeping Angels
    Oods
    Judoons
    River Song
    Christmas specials

    Eleventh Doctor
    The Doctor speaks with babies and animals
    The Silence
    The Paternoster Gang
    Trenzalore
    The War Doctor
    The Curator
    Kate Lethbridge-Stewart
     
  11. Green Lantern

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    OK, awesome.

    In that case how about "Hands free" for the Fifth Doctor?????

    Also, how about Brainy Specs and heightened taste buds for the fifth doctor?

    Choice of next incarnation for the Second Doctor? (see The War Games)
     
  12. Reverend

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    Hasn't Moffat dismissed the whole half-human idea, saying that the Doctor was either lying or confused?

    Also, was the 10th Doctor the first time we saw events happen to him out of order? River Song, Elizabeth I, Sally Sparrow etc?
     
  13. Green Lantern

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    Some fans (including me) still like to believe the Doctor is half human. Plus the Master confirms that the Doctor is Half human in the film as he looks into his eyes and sees that they're human. Also in spin-off media the theme is re-used.
     
  14. JoeZhang

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    Confirmation in the thing that has been dismissed is hardly particularly useful. The fact that it has never been mentioned again means to me that it is in the same category as the idea that Superman accesses his powers by visualising a Lynx - an oddball idea that never took.
     
  15. Alidar Jarok

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    Yeah, it's not part of the Doctor Who mythos, it's part of the movie alone.
     
  16. Sindatur

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    11 - Confirmation that Gender Change is possible in Regeneration

    11 - TARDIS Navigation was never broken, she always too him where he needed to go

    Both from The Doctor's Wife
     
  17. Iamnotspock

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    We had a taster of it in The Trial of a Time Lord, with him meeting Mel out of order, which probably would have been followed up on had Colin Baker not been fired. When that happened they had little choice but to jump ahead to Mel having travelled with him for some time. The spin-off media explored it, but it was never really done properly until Moffat came along.

    "Time-wimey" plots are therefore something that could come under the Tenth Doctor era?

    I suppose we can add to that the idea that the TARDIS "stole" the Doctor as much as vice versa, although that seemed to be undone by the Great Intelligence and put right again by Clara, who steered him to the "right" TARDIS.
     
  18. Green Lantern

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    Spin-off media, SPIN-OFF MEDIA!
     
  19. jbny67

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    There was also the ability to open & close the T.A.R.D.I.S. doors with the snap of a finger introduced during the 10th Doctors era.
    In The Day of The Doctor it seems that Clara can do it now as well.
     
  20. MacLeod

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    ^Or rather the TARDIS permits it.