The Dark Knight Rises Anticipation Station

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by JacksonArcher, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. InklingStar

    InklingStar Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I enjoyed Superman Returns when I saw it in the theater. Although I have not bothered to see it since... hmm.
     
  2. Set Harth

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    The new ones are different. The plot of QoS directly references its predecessor. There is an overall plot involving White's organization.

    Also, it is made clear that Lois remembered spending the night with Superman - she wrote an article about it, among other things - which throws a monkey wrench into the whole memory wipe thing from the end of II.
     
  3. Captrek

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    Superman II ends with Superman saying, “Sorry I've been away so long. I won't let you down again.” Superman Returns begins with Superman returning from a six-year absence searching the vastness of space for nonexistent survivors of Krypton.

    As a story arc, it’s a failure, with SR ignoring all the character development of S2. As a standalone Superman story SR is alright, but not on the same level with the Donner films.
     
  4. the G-man

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    You mean how people didn't forgive Nolan for not tying into B&R?
     
  5. Set Harth

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    The new Bond films follow their own continuity, but don't tie into previous Bonds.
     
  6. Trekker4747

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    Yeah, Casino Royale was something of a "reboot."
     
  7. Admiral_Young

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  8. Captain Craig

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    Using the same "M" as from the prior series.
     
  9. Admiral_Young

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    "Casino Royale" was indeed intended as a reboot of the series (using the same M aside) "Batman Begins" was cited as an influence on how they were going to treat Bond in the film and we saw elements of that in both films so far.
     
  10. JarodRussell

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    Discussing whether Casino Royale is a reboot is the most pointless thing I've ever read. It's not like James Bond is a 100 year old superhero who doesn't age. Every Bond film is a "reboot". Especially when the actors change.
     
  11. Misfit Toy

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    He's not quite 100, but he's getting close. He was in his thirties back in the mid 1950s.
     
  12. Admiral_Young

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  13. Set Harth

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    No.

    Yes.
     
  14. JD

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    But haven't there been references to earlier movies with a different actor? I swear I remember there being references to some of the events of the Sean Connery movies during Roger Moore's time.
     
  15. Captaindemotion

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    ^In Live and Let Die, the Jamaican native who helps 007 is the son of the one who helps him in Dr No (I think his name was Quarrel). He was originally going to be the same character until someone remembered that they killed him off in Dr No!

    For Your Eyes Only has Bond visit the grave of Tracy, his wife who is murdered by Blofeld in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Tracy is also referenced in Licence to Kill, which features the same actor playing Felix Leiter as played him in Live and Let Die (I think this is the first time the same actor played Leiter twice, though he'd been played by a much younger man in that film's predecessor, The Living Daylights).

    Die Another Day featured many of the gadgets from the Connery and Moore eras.

    I like to think that the Connery to Brosnan Bonds took place in a very loosely connected continuity; Brosnan fought Goldfinger but he made jokes about Take That, rather than the Beatles. It was only in Casino Royale that we finally saw a 007 at the start of his career and which very definitively was a break away from the previous movies and actors.
     
  16. Admiral_Young

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    I think this thread needs Jackson's presence. All this Bond and Superman talk :)
     
  17. Captaindemotion

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    ^ But Bane is currently holding him prisoner in a dark cave...
     
  18. Admiral_Young

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    He must come back. He must!!!
     
  19. Timby

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    I swear to God, if you people turn this thread into another James Bond continuity argument, I will turn this thread around right now.

    In other words, talk about The Dark Knight Rises. If you don't have anything to say about that film, well, then, you don't need to post, do you?
     
  20. Captain Craig

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