The best episode of Voyager - Final Part

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  1. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Something a little different for the final round. To proceed as normal, it would be over very quickly indeed, so here we have the winners and runner ups of each season:

    Season One: State of Flux
    Wild Card: Eye of the Needle
    Season Two: Projections
    Wild Card: Meld
    Season Three: Before and After
    Wild Card: Worst Case Scenario
    Season Four: Prey
    Wild Card: The Gift
    Season Five: Counterpoint
    Wild Card: Relativity
    Season Six: Pathfinder
    Wild Card: Life Line
    Season Seven: Homestead
    Wild Card: Repentance

    *RULES*

    Give what you consider to be the worst/your least favorite episode ONE point, and briefly explain WHY. Be sure to copy and paste the list with your point added. When an episode reaches 3 points, it is eliminated. Then a NEW round begins (in this thread) with the numbers restored to 0. Vote ONCE per round.

    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 0
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 0
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0
    Homestead - 0
    Repentance - 0
     
  2. KNH

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    I'll do the honors then, and give the first point to The Gift. By virtue of marking her departure it's the best Kes episode, but it's still a Kes episode.

    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 0
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 1
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0
    Homestead - 0
    Repentance - 0
     
  3. TrekAlliance92

    TrekAlliance92 Captain Captain

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    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 0
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 1
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0
    Homestead - 1
    Repentance - 0

    Voting for Homestead in this round. I never cared much for this episode, and I thought it was odd for Neelix to leave the ship. And, Talaxians that far out--really?
     
  4. AuntKate

    AuntKate Commodore Commodore

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    I think those Talaxians would be toast as soon as Voyager left. Out goes "Homestead."

    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 0
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 1
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0
    Homestead - 2
    Repentance - 0
     
  5. BlueStuff

    BlueStuff Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I concur, and am sending "Homestead" home. Granted, Voyager Season 7 wasn't great, but I still don't think Homestead deserved to win.

    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 0
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 0
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0
    Repentance - 0
     
  6. Admiral Shran

    Admiral Shran Admiral Admiral

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    Repentance - Could the anti-death penalty message have been any more heavy-handed? Nevermind that they completely ignore one vital issue at hand - he was legally sane when he committed the crime. Feeling guilty about it afterwards means nothing.

    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 0
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 0
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0
    Repentance - 1
     
  7. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Commodore Commodore

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    I'll also vote Repentance - somewhat good but not subtle. Certainly wish it hadn't got through as it doesn't hold up to the other good episodes here.

    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 0
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 0
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0
    Repentance - 2
     
  8. Geck

    Geck Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The Gift is an adequate farewell to Kes, but no more than adequate.

    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 0
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 1
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0
    Repentance - 2
     
  9. Gary7

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    I'll also chime in with a vote against Repentance. The death penalty argument is tired and didn't need to be brought up again. Plus, Voyager has no business in the judicial affairs of these aliens. They don't know them and have no frame of reference to place judgement. Total PD issue with meddling, and we've had too many of those kinds of episodes. Plucked out like a mote in the eye.

    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 0
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 0
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0
     
  10. Admiral Shran

    Admiral Shran Admiral Admiral

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    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 1
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 0
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 0
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0

    Eye of the Needle - did anybody really think they would get home in only the SIXTH episode?!
     
  11. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Commodore Commodore

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    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 1
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 1
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 0
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0

    Worst Case Scenario - it's a good episode but it's just more holodeck hijinks by the end, even if we do get to see Seska again.
     
  12. KNH

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    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 2
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 1
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 0
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0

    Seconding Eye of the Needle - agreeing with Admiral Shran, and a follow-up, no matter how little, would've been nice.
     
  13. Tiberius

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    I'm putting a mark against projections. Weakest episode in the list, in my opinion, and I don't like the "It was just a dream" thing they did.

    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 2
    Projections - 1
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 1
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 0
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0
     
  14. Geck

    Geck Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    State of Flux - 0
    Eye of the Needle - 2
    Projections - 1
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 1
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 1
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0

    The Gift again.
     
  15. Supernuke

    Supernuke Commander Red Shirt

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    State of Flux - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 0
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 0
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0

    Voted out Eye of the Needle. The worst episode on this list IMO.
     
  16. Gary7

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    State of Flux - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 1
    Prey - 0
    The Gift - 0
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0


    Worst Case Scenario is another boring holodeck conundrum. Didn't like seeing Seska again either, a character dispensed with that doesn't need another hook to appear once more.
     
  17. Tiberius

    Tiberius Commodore Commodore

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    I don't get the WCS hate. I mean, yeah, it's a problem with the holodeck episode, but the basics of it (solving a problem, coming up with a clever way to beat the bad guy) was nice. Not the best or most thought provoking episode, but a nice bit of popcorn.
     
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  18. HoneyBLilly

    HoneyBLilly Commodore Commodore

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    The Gift went out on the last page.

    State of Flux - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 1
    Prey - 1
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 0
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0

    I didn't like Prey. I was never a huge fan of the Hirogen. So that gets a point.
     
  19. DevilEyes

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    So many of the best VOY episodes are missing from this list.

    State of Flux - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 1
    Prey - 1
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 1
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0

    Relativity - funny and points for self-irony, but still way too silly and fluffy.
     
  20. DevilEyes

    DevilEyes Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    So many of VOY best episodes are missing from this list.

    State of Flux - 0
    Projections - 0
    Meld - 0
    Before and After - 0
    Worst Case Scenario - 1
    Prey - 1
    Counterpoint - 0
    Relativity - 1
    Pathfinder - 0
    Life Line - 0

    Relativity - funny and gets points for self-irony, but too silly and fluffy.