"That Wacky Redhead", an Alternate Timeline

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  1. Emperor Norton

    Emperor Norton Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Hopefully this is alright to post. I do think it would be of interest.

    A brief summary: In actual history, Lucille Ball sold Desilu to Gulf+Western and returned to acting. One of the better known series under Desilu was Star Trek, which was cancelled.
    The change is that in this reality Lucille Ball forgoes a return to acting and remains behind the scenes, and thus does not sell Desilu. Lucille Ball went to bat for shows that may not have otherwise had a chance, meaning that in the alternate reality, Star Trek does not get cancelled after Season 3.

    It's really interesting, and I won't spoil it.

    http://wiki.alternatehistory.com/doku.php/timelines/that_wacky_redhead
     
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  3. Emperor Norton

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    It's 60s Star Trek, and I am your Hippie pusher.
     
  4. USS Triumphant

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    You're evil! You've practically knocked me off TrekBBS until I can finish this! (I'm up to 1977 right now.)

    Really, though, thanks - this is really cool.
     
  5. Emperor Norton

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    Have you see the "Next Voyage" sexified Enterprise yet?
     
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    SPOILERS!!!
     
  7. Emperor Norton

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    No more so than if you read the chapter list. You don't know for sure what Next Voyage is. It could be a delightful pie recipe.
     
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    EDIT - just read the finale -- he made me cry -- who IS this Turtledove Award winner?!
     
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  9. Emperor Norton

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    Per his profile pic, Carroll O'Connor.
     
  10. Emperor Norton

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    They've also just done an update on the alternate reality RPG scene, so...groovy.
     
  11. USS Triumphant

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    I just caught up to that post - they're still writing this thing! I did not expect that.

    BigJake is right - and now I'm addicted and there's no end in sight! ;)
     
  12. Emperor Norton

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    To further addict you, "Dirty Laundry" should be covering some alternate TNG sometime soon here.
     
  13. publiusr

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    Wow..simply..wow.

    That guy ought to apply for God.
     
  14. USS Triumphant

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    I know, right? I'm trying to figure out how I can move myself and my family to that Earth. ;)
     
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    I've been thinking today about something that hasn't been covered much in the TTL thus far - the effects on the Top 40. For one, I'm fairly certain that "Suicide Is Painless" (theme from M.A.S.H.) and a whole bunch of war protest and otherwise war-inspired songs wouldn't have charted - might not have even been written or recorded - which kicks off a whole butterfly effect from what it would have done for the artist who was at #41 when they kept them from getting played by Casey Kasem OTL, and also what the artists that were responsible for those songs did instead. One hit wonders might never have found their limited OTL fame at all, and established artists that did those sorts of songs OTL might have had different hits - or a dry spell.

    Elvis and Lennon probably managed to score some TTL hits that they didn't OTL - and those might have kept other artists from charting for the reverse of the reason described above for the M.A.S.H. theme. And speaking of Lennon, I wonder what effect his being around will have on the his son Julian Lennon's possibly upcoming-in-TTL 1984 album "Valotte" - in its reception or even possibly in its composition. And would Lennon have kept McCartney from selling the Beatles catalog to Michael Jackson? Would Tiffany have still been allowed to cover "I Saw Him Standing There"? Would ANY of the Beatles covers that we're familiar with from 1980 forward exist? Would the Beatles have gotten back together at some point?

    And if CED technology beat our OTL CD tech from Sony to market, or in prominence IN the market, then, if the audio was limited to 30 minutes on a side, different cuts might have been necessary on MOST albums - possibly including using some songs that they didn't OTL and not using some that they did. And if they were able to use the "bandwidth" that wasn't used for video for additional audio, then there's a whole slew of additional room for songs that may have been cut from albums OTL - or it might have prompted a surround sound revolution earlier since the discs could include more than two channels. And none of that even gets into what Pink Floyd or KISS might have done with the ability to include video in their albums back then.
     
  17. Emperor Norton

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    You've been mentioned in the recent update, Mr Triumphant.
     
  18. USS Triumphant

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    You can call me USS, Emperor. ;)

    Yeah, I just finished reading it. That's pretty cool. :)
     
  19. Emperor Norton

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    Thank you. You may refer to me as "Your Royal Majesty" ;)

    Or Miss Jackson if you're nasty.
     
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    And you can call me redundant...
     

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